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Mar 082011

Niche Marketing Strategies

How To Dominate A NicheWell, it has been a while coming but I know that you all love a long read so get ready for a bit of a Marathon. Niche domination really should be at the heart of anyone serious about maximizing how much money you can really make online. Our niche marketing strategies really need to go a few steps further than our competitors so that we are un-stoppable and can DOMINATE A NICHE.

Read on my little friends. Grab something to drink and maybe a sandwich or three, you will be hungry by the time you finish reading this otherwise.

So many people never focus in on a niche and push it for all that it is worth. It does not mean that you should not work on other niches but the truth of the matter is, and something that is not talked about enough, is that if you spend most of your time on one niche you will be more profitable than you could have ever imagined.

Finding A Niche To Dominate

This is the hardest part of all but should be at the fore of your Internet endeavours. You may strike it lucky early on and find a niche that you have built some content for and you see a high number of sales for the amount of traffic or a high number of clicks on adverts such as those supplied by the adsense affiliate program.

Personally I am strictly product based and have moved almost entirely away from Adsense as I feel that for the future a site based around products, and I mean real ones, is going to stand the test of time much better and has more scope for expansion. But that is a personal approach and in no way effects the contents of this rather long post and the advice that is given on how to maximize your online earnings and dominate a niche easily.

The Only Way Is Trial And Trial Again

The rather sad fact, and the one that makes this game almost impossible to crack is the reality that finding a profitable niche is simply a matter of trial. You build Web Sites or you use Web 2.0 properties and see what your results are.

You will simply have to go through the same process as everyone else who wants to make money on the Internet and build properties and backlink them and see what comes up smelling of roses.

Doing Niche Research

Before you even begin to make a large site around a niche then you really should do some research to see what the possible numbers are. I am not going to go in to depth on keyword research as I simply do not believe in spending too much time on it. To put it bluntly the tools available are all liars to some extent. The numbers will never match. But, you can keep it simple and type your terms in to Wordtracker and see what comes up. Type in general terms for your niche and see what the numbers are. Type in the popular products and see what the numbers are.

Search for those products in the search engines or the terms you like in the niche and see what the results are. You want to see what the buzz is about your niche. Is there a lot of fresh content or is it all fairly old from established Websites?

Neither should put you off, if you have tested and found that the niche makes you money then you are going to dominate the niche no matter what the competition is like, more on that later.

Don’t waste your time

Once you find something that shows promise you need to seriously think about your use of time. Don’t waste it looking for another niche. If you know it has promise then ditch nearly all other sites in favor of the one that is going to be YOUR NICHE.

The worst thing in the world to do is to know that you have something profitable and it is all just a matter of scale and then to still be off scouring the Web for new shiny things.

Look, so many peeps say that you have to have hundreds of blogs all making a dollar a day to succeed. Many simply refuse to even believe that you only need one or two sites to make a full time living that would make your friends cry if you told them how much you actually earn.

The reality is totally different.

You can make a glorious full time living from one niche, one site, even one page. And don’t let anyone tell you any different. If they do then it is simply because THEY are not the success that you are going to be.

Kick ’em in the nuts and tell them that they are fools. And kick ’em hard dear reader, very hard indeed.

You will do much better to never even look for another niche, ever, if you find one that makes money and converts well from a visitor versus sale or click point of view.

I am not a Guru and I certainly do not know it all. But I do know that continually looking for the next best thing when you have a winner of a niche or site right under your nose is plain daft. I still do it myself, I make new sites and chase new niches when I should never even bother. The difference is though that I firstly make sure that I have done work every day for niches that earn steady money and stay profitable to some degree all year long.

Don’t be an idiot. If you find something that converts well then stick to that niche, follow what I will describe later in this post and you will be glad that you did so.


Look let me put it this way. My Wife just walked through the door and showed me our bank books after the most recent deposits. Apparently the bank manager has gone from trying to sell her Insurance to trying to sell her houses. A year ago we were in debt and struggling. This year we are on track to be able to have enough by the end of the year or the beginning of 2012 to buy another house in the UK, FOR CASH! In a year.

It hasn’t been from trying to rank 3 million bloody websites, I can tell you that.

Something to think about anyway.

So, before we go about really dominating our chosen niche let’s take a look at a few ways to ensure that we are actually on the right track. We certainly do not want to spend all of our time working on a site and expanding our empire to dominate if all we end up with is some KICK ASS DOMINATION in a niche that is about as good an earner as a disemboweled bunny.

How To Test Conversions Quickly

We need to know that what we are going to be spending most of our time on is actually going to be profitable. I wish that I could tell you that this is a simple thing to do and that it can be done in a few days but the reality is different. It is bloody hard to find a good niche. In fact it is the hardest part of this whole game. To be honest the rest is easy. It is all a matter of scale and it is all a matter of work. Bloody hard work, don’t get me wrong. Even with a brilliant arena to work in and one that is highly profitable you still need to put in a lot of work if you want to actually be a big earner.

But before all of that comes the main reason why most people give up trying to make money online:

Most niches suck.

This is true.

And it is the main reason why people never cross an earnings threshold and make it to earnings that really are something to get excited about. Nearly every niche that I am involved in is far from brilliant when it comes to conversions. I have had so many failures I don’t even know where to begin.

I have spent countless months on countless sites only to get the traffic and find that it was a total waste of time. Now, I really do recommend putting in some initial work testing a niche quickly before you go all out and waste what could be a good part of year.

And this brings us to the so-called Web 2.0 properties.

Before you make a fully fledged site in a niche that you hope to dominate I would recommend writing 10 or so pages of content for some of the popular and relatively easy to rank Web 2.0 properties. It may be Squidoo, Hubpages or Infobarrel for sites that will earn from adsense. But I would build out some good quality content and rank it as quickly as you can to test at least some of your keywords. You will need to keep your ear to the ground to see just what Web 2.0 properties are currently in favor with the search engines. And if you base your earnings on them then beware, they are liable to go in and out of favor at any point and you can see rankings and earnings plummet overnight.

Using the properties is for a number of reasons but the main one is ensuring that you do not waste more time than you need to. You may still waste many months building and ranking these pages until you find something that converts well for the amount of work involved but you will save yourself a lot of heartache long term.

You will, at the very least, have content that you can then use for backlinking purposes in related niches and all of these properties will add a little to your overall earnings regardless of if the niches were actually any good. I must admit that this is a part of how well we earn overall. Even the most dastardly of niches and topics still add up to your overall earnings. At Christmas time any site that gets traffic, even if the niche stinks, will earn well for a few months.

A good amount of my earnings every month through the year is simply because of the scale of content and affiliate links I now have online. Most may stink but having hundreds, well, thousands of such properties all adds up over time to a good amount of money. And at Christmas time even the stinkiest of raccoon niches will earn you more than you would have thought.

Bottom line, test out your niche on a quick to rank property before you go all out for NICHE DOMINATION.

And if I can give you one piece of advice that I have now followed for a good period of time it is know when to walk away. If the work ratio to earnings is not there and if the properties simply do not convert well then give it the big heave ho and don’t look back. Just because you WANT a site to work it does not mean that it will.

Some topics simply do not convert in to sales or even clicks and if this is the case walk away and don’t look back.

Conversely once you find something that does seem to have real potential don’t keep looking for more niches. You want to focus in and really make the absolute most of the cool niche that you have found. You don’t need more than one great idea to really earn more money than you ever dreamed possible. If you think that you can’t make $120,000 in a year, I mean a year from now that could be what you earn the following year, then you need to think again. That is conservative and I know that there is a lot more to be earned by ranking a few sites, but that is certainly something to aim for. But the sky is the limit really, it is all a mater of scale. More on that later.

Now in the final preliminary chat before we get to the real meat of the bones let’s address a much discussed part of our site building.

Should It Be A Passion Site

There is a lot of talk lately about how the Internet is going to change and we have to do this and do that.Β  I have talked myself about building a passion site and the relative ease it is to stay motivated and involved in such a niche. But my reality is that the only passion site I have is this one.

I enjoy it and it gets a lot of natural mentions online and that is great.

But all of my main earners are not passion sites. They are sites about white socks and tea towels and the like. You absolutely do not need to have a great big passion for how you earn your living. Internet Marketing itself should be your passion, it doesn’t have to mean that the sites that you make to involve your passion need to be about things that you care about in any deep sense.

It is all a question of motivation and personality.

If you know that you are never going to stick to a niche that you really have no interest in then you will have to build a site that you are passionate about. But I will tell you this, you are going to have a much harder time of it that peeps like me who will (un)happily write about white socks for 8 hours a day so that I can buy a new house.

You are making your earnings potential a lot narrower if you will only build a site around what really interests you. This needs to be a personal choice but as far as I am concerned I will write about most things if I can use them to invoke MY PASSION, Internet Marketing itself.

Something to ponder before you go at it full bore.

OK, enough of the rather lengthy introduction, let’s get down to business. Let’s learn how to really dominate our chosen niche and make more money than we could have ever dreamed possible.

How To Dominate A Niche

dominate a nicheThere are a number of approaches but the reality is that you want to dominate and earn as much as possible.

So that means getting more than 1 or 2 positions on page 1 of popular search engines.

This is something that we will return to in a lot more depth later on. But suffice to say that to totally dominate a niche we want a lot of content and we want a lot of content on the front page of search engines. Let’s get straight in to it and find out how we can really earn a great living online without going slightly out of our minds trying to control way too many different niches and sites and pretty much failing miserably.

How To Pick A Niche

This is basically down to you. Finding a niche is all about trial and error. The reality is that as we talked about earlier it is going to be trial and error until you find one that seems to convert well from the traffic that you get. Be it something that you are interested in or not you are going to be with this for a long time so simply ensure that you can be the authority and actually know what you are talking about.

Niche selection can be down to simply browsing through Amazon and picking something where items have plenty of reviews and there is an obvious customer base that seems happy to buy online, or it can be as complex as topical thoughts about spirituality. You will get there in the end but the bottom line is this is the hardest part of all. Finding something that converts is where it begins and trial and error is the only way to go.

Don’t Worry About The Competition

The truth is I don’t look at what PR my competition has. If I am going to dominate it, and if I know that it makes a good return then I will, then I don’t consider the opposition.

It may not be what you wanted to hear but I can tell you now that all niches are possible to dominate but some will simply be easier than others. But what I do not do is worry about my competition. I will simply beat them. I gave up on adsense long ago and while it still brings in $1000 or so a month I find the keyword research both a headache and a bore, not to mention that the tools are completely misleading.

No, the reality is that I will do basic research to ensure that the niche is worthwhile and this will be down to checking simple things like numbers of reviews for products and basically picking a topic that is going to be relevant to as many people as possible. I know many of you have all the tools with their bells and whistles, whatever floats your boat, but studying the competition too much may actually make you veer away from something that could be very lucrative. Something to ponder anyway. I like to keep things simple.

I work in some very tough niches and I can tell you now that if I had worried about the competition then I would not have touched them. They are full of big players with massive budgets but with hard work and perseverance they can all be beaten. In fact they can be DOMINATED. A focused attitude goes a long way and making a site a priority and the one that you spend nearly all of your time working on is going to get you a very long way.

Your competition can be beaten and you need to believe this. Obviously I am not talking about Viagra or similar niches, you must be realistic while also not selling yourself short. There are going to be an awful lot of keywords in any niche and this the beauty of working in one niche as the main endeavour online.

How Large A Niche?

I really would pick a niche with a lot of scope. Where there are plenty of products or topics and where you have a vast array of potential keywords. You will find more and more keywords as the site ages and you become more involved so I would pick a large and broad niche where you have a lot of options.

Should I Go As Broad As Possible

I say yes. Go broad with a general site name encompassing everything that falls within your niche. The beauty of this is that you have limitless possibilities. If I build a site around white socks I may find that white socks do not convert very well, but if I build a site around socks and call my site “Socks R Us” then it does not matter if white socks do not convert. I can go for all other colors, styles, materials etc within the whole broad niche.

This is what many people fail to realize when they try to find a niche. Spend six months on white socks and you may get burned. Spend a day on red socks and you could be a happy bunny.

By building a very broad niche site you get the opportunity to go through every option within the niche and you will find a few gems. You then hone in on those and make them your priority. And the work on the sub-niches that you have done, the writing and the backlinking, will not be lost. You will have built up the overall authority of the site, you have internal pages to link to other pages and this is what makes a site a success.

A site about white socks could be a waste if it fails to convert, but a site about socks can have a category about white socks and it does nothing but enhance the site as a whole. Don’t think small here, you want to be seen, and to be, the only place in town for socks as you need to cover all of the options available. It gives the site more relevance by working on all sub-niches on the site and you build up the internal linking structure, pass authority around the site and you also have capture pages where you can direct people to other options that you recommend to them. You will be amazed how much traffic you can funnel where you want it to be from pages that are not a success in their own right as far as conversions and sales or clicks are concerned.

Pick a broad niche with limitless scope and you will uncover the gems within the niche and you can then work hard on making what converts a real success.

What Keywords Convert The Best

When it comes to keywords that convert then I have already written about some of the best 50. Check the buying keywords article for some top tips. You will find that once you get more stats you will uncover some amazing terms that convert well that you would never have thought of and that never show in keyword tools.

Again you need to hone in on them and rank them to the top. I find that just a product name converts well but when someone types in “buy white socks” well, you pretty much know you are on to a winner.

Site Layout

Site layout has been covered here many times so I am not going to go through this again. The Amazon guide offers all that you need to know and you will simply lay out your site in the way that suits the niche the best. The one thing I will say is that subtlety does not work. If you want to sell something then put it there in front of your visitors eyes.

If you do a review site then give a good review but don’t be shy about offering the product. Hiding away a little link where no one is going to see it is not the way to make a conversion.

Post Layout

On this site as it has grown and I have become more experienced I try to put in both obvious and also subtle tips and hints about how to really lay out a post for the best return. This means optimizing for your visitors and for the search engines. The fact is that I know that many people are still a little shy with their post layout, as mentioned above. And try to make something memorable. This post is one that I have tried to take some time over as far as aesthetics are concerned. I am pretty sure it will be memorable to you. The big bold images I have on here and the different font type for the Headers make it stand out from the crowd. It also makes it a lot more readable and eye catching having the Headers and the images. Try to make something beautiful that you want to show your Mum.

The reality is that a successful product or adsense site will give the best return if what the visitor sees when they first arrive is how you want to make your money. This may be an adsense block, or a picture of a product and a link to buy or read the reviews of it on Amazon.

Without doubt above the fold is the best way to go for most sites. Do not be shy about your call to action. I really cannot stress this enough. Above the fold with what you want to accomplish should always be nagging at the back of your mind.

Your Text

I have written a number of examples here of what converts the best and just as importantly about how to maximize your on page SEO. This should not be overlooked. Content should be interlinked back and forth and your best content should have a number of internal links pointing to it from other pages.

I am in no doubt that the best on site optimization comes in the form ofΒ  really covering your topic. Firstly you will want to make titles clickable in WordPress. No point wasting a keyword optimized H2 link πŸ˜‰

And your content will do well if you use your keywords in the first sentence and all manner of related terms through the post.Β  The Mervyn Peake Gormenghast Trilogy example is the perfect way to optimize a post. Take the post as a whole and you will see that it is full of H2’s all covering related keywords around the main term. This will get you a long way in the search engines and there is no doubt that for both bots and real life human beings it shows that the topic is covered comprehensively.

It is also easier to rank those H2’s than it is if you only have those keywords in the body of the text. Trust me on this, I have experimented a lot. I am not saying that you should do this for every post, many of them will not be long enough to warrant it, but when the opportunity arises you should try to lay out your content in this fashion.

But don’t let anyone tell you that you can’t rank 150 words either, you can, just make your site as comprehensive as you possibly can. Note in the Gormenghast post that we have a nice call to action near the top of the content, so if someone arrives they have the opportunity to buy as soon as possible. The navigation is easy and they are in no doubt about where to click.

You will be amazed how many emails I have had from my niche sites contact form (always have one, you are legit aren’t you) asking how they can buy an item. This really brought it home to me that you must provide very clear instructions for people if you want them to click a link. Simply linking with the product name to an affiliate program is not sufficient. You MUST say “click here”or some such thing or you will lose sales. It seems daft but you really do not want people scratching their heads and LEAVING as all they see is the name of the product highlighted in blue, you need to tell them where to click.


It is very important that you add the rel=nofollow tag in to all of your outbound affiliate links. I still keep seeing it time and time again on affiliate sites and the reality is that you are doing yourself an injustice. Why would you give your competitionot a link? Nofollow all affiliate links as yo make them as a matter of course and it will become a habit so that you never overlook it. Same with images that link to products, do not forget this, you are simply making your life harder otherwise.

Social Media

The dreaded social Media. Since I got introduced to Facebook not so very long ago by a horrible EVIL Bear I have been hesitantly looking in to it a little closer. To be honest I can’t really get my head around it all and I am not saying that for one minute it will make you rich and send you a lot of traffic. But there are things to be done in this present climate and Social Proof is one of them.

Whether or not “likes” and such are going to play a role in ranking factors remains to be seen but there is one thing that I am sure of and that is that a social side to a niche site should not be overlooked. If for no other reason than to make your visitors to your site feel that you are a real site that is genuine and has a recommendation from the main social networks. And the bots may even be rather impressed that on your niche site you have a link to your Facebook Business page!

Enter the Facebook Business Page

make a facebook business pageI have only just set up my first Facebook page for one of my sites and to be honest it was a bloody nightmare. How they manage to make it so difficult to do is beyond me. Once learned it is simplicity itself and since I now know how to do it I will tell you in a moment. And I actually set up my second business page for a niche in the time it took to write the bullet points below, simples!

What I have realized, and very late too, is that although I have no interest in being on Facebook for my niche sites, and I won’t be, it provides a lot of social validation to your visitors. If I can have the Facebook social plugin on my sidebar with a link to my business page then I get social proof.

My visitors will come to my site and see that I have a Facebook presence and that there are thousands of people who are on Facebook who have taken the time to click the “like” button to say that they recommend my services.

Once you have made your Facebook page, which is different to a normal account, you need 25 fans and then you can change the url to a keyword. This should not be overlooked. If you set it up nicely and pick your main keyword then you have a very SEO friendly url that will show up in the search engines.

I am seeing more and more Facebook pages show up in the SERPS so it is time to build one. With a good landing page when visitors arrive on it you can direct the traffic to your site and they will be confident that you are a real genuine business with a lot of followers. And how do you think your site would fare if you could rank your Facebook Fan Page beneath your own domain on positions 1 and 2 in the search engines?

Getting Followers

The social proof is certainly not going to hurt so I say go for it to add an air of legitimacy to your site and put people in a buying mood. But, of course, no one is going to “fan” or “like” my site about socks. So, just bugger off to Fiverr and pay a few Dudes a few bucks and they will give you as much social validation as you care to pay for to get you going. You can get your first 25 to make the change to your Facebook URL and then build it up so that you have plenty of fans and this will all show up on your site that people really do think a lot of you.

I know many of you will gasp at this, it is new to me, but I am in no doubt that having a presence like this on your site will help with conversions. Plus you get the chance to get search traffic from within Facebook itself and a URL that will be in the search results and a perfect free landing page to boot, all backed up by the most popular social network in the world. Interesting huh?

And who knows how the future of search will go. Maybe Facebook really will be a competitor somewhere down the line. For maybe a half hour of our time it certainly is not going to hurt to get in the system as early as we can.

How To MakeΒ  A Facebook Business Page

If you are anything like me then all this Social stuff is WAY confusing. Here is how to make a Facebook business page or Facebook Fan page in the simplest ways possible:

  • Go to http://www.facebook.com/pages/create.php
  • Click the most appropriate option, for me that is brand or product
  • Pick your category
  • Put your main keyword in the box beneath the category and click “get started”
  • Complete the sign up process
  • Check your email and confirm your registration
  • You are now on the Get Started page on Facebook
  • Add your image ensuring you always use your keywords as the name of the image
  • Click on info on the left hand side beneath where it says Wall and then click on basic information
  • Fill that baby on in. Treat this in the same SEO friendly way you treat your sites, exactly the same
  • Click Save changes
  • The left sidebar has now changed
  • Click on apps
  • You will see one called Static FBML
  • Click on add app and then click on go to app
  • You now have what is basically a html box
  • The box title will again be your main keyword and what will also eventually be your url after http://www.facebook.com/
  • Create your html, using images with your keywords and a call to action to visit your website etc. Basically this is going to be what visitors see when they come to your Facebook Page so it is a landing page to capture their hearts
  • Once done click save changes
  • Click the Facebook homepage logo then click manage permission on the sidebar
  • Change the default landing tab to your FBML page
  • Now, once you get 25 fans you can change the ugly looking URL of your Facebook business page to your keywords
  • Log out and type in your url to see what it looks like to visitors. If it is damn ugly then do a search online for Facebook Fan page templates, there are loads of them out there
  • Sweet eh?

NOTE: Quick update. In typical bloody fashion no sooner have I written this than after March 11 the FBML is being phased out. Instead you will need to begin to use an iFrame/html app. It won’t effect existing FBML but after the 11th you will instead need to do a search in the apps section and pick up an iFrame app. If you want to get all clever and stuff and make something to drool over then Pat has a video about the new iFrame/HTML app use with links to some apps etc.

I would then head on over to Fiverr or get in touch with your buddies and get your 25 fans. Then go back to your account and under basic information you will see that you can then change your user-name. Make this your keywords with a dot after each one so it is a nice rich keyword specific URL that relates to your site. In just a few weeks I can tell you that my Page is now in the SERPS and I will get that baby ranking high.

Then build up your fans to a decent number (Fiverr again), and then go back to your page, click on getting started and then you have the option to add a like box to your sites.

I am not saying that you need to then post on the Wall all the time or spend your life on there. But, you have a URL that you can try to rank, it is a great squeeze page as you can put any links you want in the FBML page back to your site. But most importantly, and I think this is the main point, once you put the like box on your site and it has a respectable number of fans you have instant social validation or social proof that instills confidence in your visitors and certainly makes you stand out from other sites.

Now, that took me bloody ages to learn, so I hope you are happy. Just remember that to view how visitors see your Fan page you need to be logged out. It will not default correctly when you are logged in.

But Wait

At the time of writing (March 2011), Facebook in their wisdom do not seem to allow the owner of the business page to post updates to the wall. Mental!

So, log out, sign up as a person for a normal account then log out again. Log in to the business page account and add your other account as an admin. Log out, log in as the personal account and then on the top right under account click use Facebook as page. Then click the keyword rich name of your business page. You can now add content to the Business page wall as the business!

Why the biggest social media site in the world has deemed to make this so complicated and mind-bending I do not know, but there you go. Simple if you follow the directions.

Dominating The Front Page Of The Search Engines

In time for our main keyword we will have at least a double listing in places 1 and 2 and underneath that a Facebook business page. Talk about social validation and consumer confidence, we will have it in spades. But there are ten spots and we want as many as possible. Using Web 2.0 properties should not be overlooked, you can earn and get links at the same time. But we also want sites we control totally so we need more of our own sites for at least some of the terms that we know rank well.

Building Satellite Sites

satellite sitesWhat I recommend is that after you have been running your main niche site long enough for it to gather some decent rankings then you need to branch out to dominate more positions on the front page. The aim should always be to get at least a double listing for your most popular terms.

You can do that by using the same keywords in two post titles with a slight addition of a word in one. Then link them both together internally and then backlink them both for the same keywords.

Your most popular terms should be backed up to make them more invincible to the competition. If you are not using Build My Rank for backlinks then you are seriously missing out on the easiest way to rank anything at the moment. Take thee trial and tell me you don’t love it.

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This will allow you to rank amazing well for your sites and I use it every day. But not just for my main niche sites. You want to pick your best performing keywords and build new sites around them. This is something that many people completely overlook.

My advice is to never rely on only one site, we all know that anything can happen at any time. Algo’s change, sites drop out of favor for whatever reason, or who knows what. The answer is to build satellite sites to help support your main site but also as a backup in case the worst happens.

For this we want Affordable Reseller Hosting where we can build our support sites on servers and IP addresses totally different to our main site. I was late doing this and I regret it. If you are serious about this business then you really do need to do all that you can to help your earnings to stay stable. And a number of sites in the same niche is the best way to do this.

Get reseller hosting and pick you best keywords and build new sites around them.

This may seem like overkill to you but trust me it is nothing of the kind. You will soon realize that you were missing out big time by not doing this sooner.

Me and the Wife have at least ten if not more support sites around a few niches and the reality is that it is very profitable. We pick our main terms and build smaller sites around those terms. They get built out to five pages or so and left for some time. Then they slowly get built up if needed and backlinked to get them to rank.

Theses sites should be treated in the same way as your main niche site. They should be set up to sell the product or the click and they should look good and be backlinked.

Size Of Satellite Sites

I often contradict myself and I will do it again now. I am not a fan of small 5 page sites yet I do have a number of them. I go for broad niches where 5 pages will not cut it. But for my support sites they range in size from full blown large blogs with hundreds of pages to small 4 or 5 page sites.

As many of my sites are based around products my support sites are as big as they need to be to rank for the main terms I want. This means that some are large as I have mined plenty of terms from my main site, while others really only have a few searches that the majority of people use.

You do what needs to be done and you build out the support sites to the size they need to be. I have found that 4 page sites can rank and I have found that 4 page sites can not rank. Building two sites of equal size and keyword difficulty means that the Gods may smile on one and not on the other. If that is the case you simply add more content and carry on backlinking until you get where you want to be.

This is the nature of the game.

A bloody mystery.

The sooner that you do this the happier you will be in the future.

Build out five or so support sites, or as many as you need to cover your main terms and add some initial content. It doesn’t matter if you then forget them for six months, and this is a good idea. Let them age and then begin to backlink them to rank.

By leaving them to age you may well find that they rank with little or no work. Let them find their natural place in the SERPS and then begin to work on them properly. You will then be getting another one or two spots on the front page for your best terms.

This is so important I don’t know how to emphasize it enough.

You want to minimize your potential losses if anything happens to your main site. You do this by building other sites for your best terms. You will then in all probability nearly double your income once they rank well and you have these sites to fall back on to replace any loss in earnings or loss in rankings from your main niche sites.

Get High Quality Backlinks

Apart from increasing earnings and as a safety measure the satellite sites perform one other very important function, in fact the most important one of all.

You are getting just about tthe best quality backlinks that you will ever get.

Those of us in the “White Socks”niche are not going to get lots of natural links or tons of fans on Facebook. We need to help ourselves out. The reality is that once you help yourself get noticed then you may get those coveted natural links and social proof organically. But initially at the very least we need to give a mighty push ourselves to get our niches noticed.

Becoming the player in your niche on associated forums and other places where people are interested in white socks may get us traffic and followers depending on the niche but if we want organic search rankings then we need backlinks. We should be doing anything and everything to get them and as we are in this game to make money we really want to maximize the quality of the links and the content that we have online.

The best links are going to come from super relevant sites about our topic with an in post link or two to our main site.

And if we build up our satellite sites we have just about the best quality links possible. We tell our visitors to our smaller sites that there is a great large resource for the niche and we link to it. Nothing fishy or underhand, we are covering our topic extensively over a number of sites and linking to our main site.

Building up a series of sites just to put two link in the home page post to our main site may seem like overkill but this is a tough game. This is competitive and getting harder day by day. As more and more people enter the world of Internet Marketing the fact is that it is harder and harder to rank for anything.

I have lost count of the number of sites I have seen all just around a longtail term that only warrants a single post on one of my broad niche sites. People are willing to spend a lot of time buying a longtail domain name, getting a custom header and ranking for a copyright product name just in an attempt to rank it number one for pocket change. If you don’t get your satellite sites up, and up soon, you are giving the competition another year to make your life harder.

You want the best quality backlinks to your main site that you can possibly get. So build up satellite sites,. let them age then rank them and at some point once they are seen as an authority for the term put some links in to direct visitors to the main broad niche site.

A Note On Copyright

As just stated I am seeing the Internet more and more saturated with longtail exact match domain names. This game is getting harder and more competitive every day. But I do not recommend that you go this route. We have personal experience of having a site taken off us after a letter from a lawyer.

Do not use any copyright terms.

You do so at your own risk. If you use a trademark or copyright term you risk at some point having all of your hard work taken off you by the owner.

The better option is to buy a general term for the domain name if what you want to rank for is a protected word. You can then simply change the title of the actual site to the keywords you want to rank for. I have no problems ranking for the term using this approach and it ensure that you don’t come a cropper at some point in the future.

Buying protected terms for domain names is not worth the risk if you ask me and the benefit you do get from an exact match domain is no good if you risk losing it all. For quick cash I say go for it. But for a long term site that you want to stay ranking for many years to come think hard about what the best long term approach really is. Building a site that runs the risk of being taken off you at any time is not a road best followed as far as I am concerned, but for short term earnings sites like this can rank very easily for a quick return.

How Many Satellite Sites

Golden question and only one that you can answer.

It takes time to build them up and this is a process that you cannot rush. Much like your main site. But the sooner that you get your main site ranking for some good terms the sooner you can then build other sites around these terms. Or take a more gung-ho approach and give an educated guess as to what your future best earning terms will be.

I prefer to wait to take the guesswork out of it but if you have built Web 2.0 properties first to test terms then you can go straight ahead and build your satellite sites near to the time you build your main site.

Don’t do them just for the sake of it though, do them because they will be real sites in their own right. How many you build will depend on how may you think you need to help support your main site and to help you maintain good rankings in the search engines because of the high quality of the links that these satellite sites provide.

As I stated earlier I have sites that have up to ten or more support sites but just make what you feel you need to gather those important search engine positions.

This is not a quick approach this is a long term strategy and one that you need to do as soon as possible. The longer you wait the harder it will be to rank as others will always be chasing at your heels and it gets harder every day.

Build then and then forget them for six months, you will be glad you did.

Only the other week I finally got around to beginning to backlink a few support sites. Initially I was thinking I had the unfortunate task of adding the content to them first. I thought I had just registered the domains and that was it.

But no.

I had installed WordPress and actually added the content at the time. They had been sitting there for six months aging nicely and I had totally forgotten that I HAD DONE IT.

I can tell you now with no uncertainty that aged content is a lot easier to rank.

The older it is the better it responds to links. By making these sites and forgetting about them for a while you are cutting down on the work that you have to do in the future as you will not need to build anywhere near as many links to them to get them to rank.


How Should You Treat Satellite Sites

Treat them like your main site. Maybe not going as far as getting social validation via Facebook or Twitter and the like but make them look good, provide good information that the searcher is looking for and then backlink them.

The links that are then put in them that point to your main sites carry a lot more weight and will have a much more positive effect on your main niche sites rankings.

These are also back-ups so they should be there to quickly take the place of your main site if need be. So work on them properly and earn more money while also covering yourself if anything unfortunate ever happens.


backlinksShould we do this?


Link Wheels To Boggle Your Brain

Link Wheel ology to maximize your rankings and dominate your niche!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah right. More like how to fry your brain and get yourself so confused you don’t know what the hell you are doing!

Keep it simple folks.

The golden rule in this here game. Forget all this complicated link wheel nonsense. Build backlinks to your sites. Build other properties that can earn you money and backlink them to get them to rank. That is all you need to do.

Backlink your important backlinks to make them pass you more authority and that is as far as you need to go. You will simply muddle your brain in to a gooey mess if you get too convoluted in this game and try to be too clever.

Find your links from as many different places as possible. There are more resources, free and paid for, on my Tools To Succeed page. Use them all and never rely on just one source for links. Comment on blogs, get nofollow links, get plenty of links that are not keyword specific. Get direct URL links, do guest posts on other blogs, use Build My Rank like it was going out of fashion. Use Postrunner from The Keyword Academy and beg for them from other site owners. The more varied the better.

Free Resources

Tips for using free resources:

It came to me the other day when a keyword I wanted was not available on Squidoo and Hubpages. Um, put a dash at the beginning! Simple but it is amazing how many obvious things we never think of. I have done it and tested the results with backlinks and the fact is that even for very tough terms it makes no difference to the ability to rank these free to use web properties.

Get your call to action in early

As with the post layout on your own sites much of it also applies to how you use free resources. Above the fold is where it is at. Maximize the content you make by putting an affiliate link in above the fold and a link to your own main niche site. You get a double whammy.

You really do want to spend time laying out the content you put on other properties. Use them to increase your earnings not just for backlinks.

Use them like mini satellite sites.

Make them good, backlink them until they rank. Mine them for additional keywords and then use those keywords on your own main niche site. You will be amazed how two different pieces of content can bring up so many diverse keywords.

You may have a page on your niche site about white socks for Dogs and build a Squidoo Lens around the same topic. Your site may even rank higher but the terms that the Lens ranks for may never show up in your own stats. One of the quirks of the Internets search engines. So for popular terms make a number of properties to dig for more and more keywords. Then incorporate them in to your existing content or write a new article to rank for them and further increase the overall authority of your site.

Using Your Stats

Often slightly overlooked and neglected your stats really are your own personal niche specific keyword research tool. Stats for your main site, your satellite sites and your Web 2.0 properties should be checked regularly for these hidden gems.

I don’t really use keyword research tools but I do use my stats. They bring up surprising results and should be at the heart of how you continue to grow your site. You will uncover things you never thought of. You will find that people type in all manner of odd things and you need to then incorporate those terms in to your content or add new content. Then link the two post together for the terms and get the coveted double listing.

This is of prime importance and it really expands your site while also making your site even more relevant in the eyes of the search engines. Look for the hidden gems.

Look for terms that a couple of people have come to your site for and check your rankings. If you are low on page 1 for the term then a few backlinks will see you at the top and once you have been doing this for a number of months all of those longtail terms will easily bear the traffic and earnings that you get for your main term.

The Beauty Of Longtails

People get so hell bent on ranking for a single term that they overlook the simple fact stated above. Ranking highly for a number of longtail search terms can provide you with more money than the main term. Longtails are usually a lot more specific and are often much more likely to convert in to profit for you.

You may only get 4 people a day typing in “buy white socks online cheap for large feet” but you can pretty much guarantee a sale. But the “white socks” brigade may have absolutely no intention of buying anything. Window shoppers the lot of them, and bloody annoying it is too πŸ˜‰

Never neglect the longer search term.

You will find that by backlinking for hundreds of varied terms that your stats show you get a few visitors a day for will result over time in masses of highly targeted traffic that are easier to convert.

It also plays one other very important role.

It is much more natural to the search engines for you to have links for long and relevant terms. A site that only has links for the exact term in the post title is fishy.

A site that has links for countless terms all related somewhat to the niche is a lot more natural. With updates to algos coming thick and fast over recent years we want to do our best to ensure our niche site stays ranking. And by linking for hundreds of longtail search terms we have a much better chance of keeping our sites ranking when the next algo hits.

Longtail traffic is very important and once you get hundreds and hundreds of them you will see just how much earning potential they really have.

Wrap Up

Well, that is about it apart from some final thoughts and ramblings.

Facebook is new to me but I can see the potential. Go with it or forget it, up to you. But at the moment they are one of the big boys so see what it can do for you. If nothing else having a Fan Page widget on your site with a number of fans is certainly not going to hurt. It provides social validation to your visitors and may help your conversion rate.

And who knows where the future of Facebook search will go?

Won’t hurt to be in the index will it? But don’t get me wrong. It is clunky, stupidly set up and hard to navigate. I am amazed that it is like it is or maybe it is just me beingΒ  a thickie pants.

Social Media can be used to your advantage if you have the inclination. I don’t really but there are more ways to earn than just through search.

Lets say that you are a real fan of a baseball team. You build a great looking site and update it all the time about what the team is up to. What do you think would happen if you set up an auto follow on Twitter for anyone that mentions any term to do with your team. You would soon have thousands of people who follow you back. What if you then set up to auto Tweet your daily articles. What if you also set up auto Tweets about daily special offers for Jerseys and the like. What if over a year you build this up to tens of thousands of Twitter followers and write content all day for that site that gets Tweeted to them.

My guess is that for those with a passion for a topic that set up would work pretty nicely. No worrying about search and targeted visitors. Social traffic can convert, you just need to think about what would work. A passion site could convert social traffic in the right niche, just think about these things rather than just dismissing them. You know, like I do. Joke, I could never do something like that, I have no real interest in anything I could write about daily in that way. But maybe you do.

The bottom line is that when it comes to making a long term living, and a good one Online you really do want to focus on in on a specific niche or two. You should have a niche that occupies most of your time and you should stop looking around for new ones all the time.

Safeguard your site the best you can with satellite sites and Web 2.0 properties and maybe even get yourself a fan base away from search traffic. If there are forums for your niche then be a leader on them. Heck, make your own and be the leader there. I have seen a very popular forum for a tech gadget set up by a woman. She interacts there all day long and women love to chat there. Thousands of people daily reading it and tons of comments and every now and then she pops in an affiliate link. Do you think your average person even knows it is an affiliate link? Of course not.

Another example that I was very impressed with was a Facebook Business page. It was linked to from a niche blog about a gadget. The blog ranks high for the main terms. It obviously gets a lot of traffic. Their Facebook business page ranks on page 1 too for the main term. It has over 16,000 fans. It gets updated regular and guess what? Their landing page is a simple “click HERE to buy the ……..”

It goes straight to Amazon!


They update the wall regular and those updates get seen by people. Peeps comment on the updates and interact, you can’t tell me they don’t make money from it. They wouldn’t do it otherwise.

And if Facebook changes their search interface and make a play for Googledom I would like to be there waiting just in case.

If not then no biggie, a couple of hours to get your head around it and 30 seconds a day to check in to make sure no one has written “These white socks are crap” is worth the social presence.

But the main thing I hope you have got from all of this rambling is to go big. Make a broad niche site that gives you endless scope to expand as and when you feel like it.

Stop looking for the next big thing and knuckle down to really building a serious contender for thousands of keywords that you can work on for a lifetime. Stop looking for the next shiny thing. Concentrate on your niche and hone in on the pages that earn. James will tell you that you can make a full time living from a single page of content. You should really try to hone in on your winning content and take it to levels that you never believed possible. Billy will tell you that small programs can help you become more productive and mine for data, I am too brain dead to understand but look for ways to be as productive as possible.

This means not wasting your time looking for new niches all the time. Find one that converts and make it your lifes work. If it is boring then suck it up, better than working for “The Man” isn’t it. You can at least have a coffee break as and when and maybe whisk the Wife off upstairs for a cuddle. Can’t do that when you have a “real” job can you.

Now and then surprise yourself. Make a thing of beauty just like this article you are writing πŸ˜‰ Seriously, I am proud of this site and I have taken a lot of time over this article to try to get it to look nice. I feel proud. Try to do that yourself now and then, even if just for the sake of your sanity. I was not joking when I said make something you would be proud to show your Mum. It does not have to be to earn money, it just keeps you sane if you know that you have created a little thing of beauty amongst all the dross.

This game is limitless and the money that you can earn is unlimited. You won’t get there by trying to do everything at once. You need to FOCUS. You need to attack a niche with gusto and confidence. You are going to be a PLAYER. You are going to dominate your niche and earn countless riches. You are NOT going to jump from one thing to another and never really take anything to its full potential.

If you find it impossible to write much content and repeatedly write about the same things many hundreds, nay thousands of times, then I hope you enjoy your day job, you will be in it a long time.

Me, my retirement is part of my life. I ain’t waiting until I am 65 to put my feet up. I work hard but I work to my own rules. I type until my fingers bleed and I reap the rewards. I attack my niches with gusto and I won’t ever give up until I am number 1 for everything. I won’t give up until I rank number 1 for every term that a human could possibly type in to a search engine for my niches. And when I rank number 1 I am going to then rank number 2 with a double listing.

I am NOT going to bang my head against a wall and stick with a niche that does not convert. Once you find something that works stop looking. Sure, mix it up for the sake of your sanity but always return to your main niche as a priority.

That way lies riches, and untold ones at that.

Over 10,000 words and all free. You know what to do to share the love you tight gits.



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  294 Responses to “Niche Domination”

  1. WoW

    i have not read the full page. well its is 10000 words.



    Can not find words to describe your generosity.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Thanks Dude, it is very much appreciated. After writing mind numbing build my rank articles it was good to get back to some quality content to be a little proud of for a change.

  2. “Now, that took me bloody ages to learn, so I hope you are happy.”

    No I am not happy. I never will be happy if I feel I have to do anything with Facebook. I am old school.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Geez, thanks Dave for the nice post.

    Oh, you are welcome Seth, and how are you today.

    Fine thanks Dave, not feeling grumpy or anything like that. I am off to Facebook now to make a page, see you later.

    OK, bye Seth, nice to chat with you again.

    +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Seth Reply:

    @Dave, LOL..I begrudgingly thank you for the Facebook part. I think.

    I have a persona to upkeep you know. Oh..wait a minute….I am really just playing my real grumpy self.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Ha, busted. You said LOL. That means that really you are cool young Dude who spends all his time on Facebook chatting in weird shorthand code us oldies don’t understand πŸ˜‰

  3. Dave, how could you?!

    I am waiting for some AMR signups to complete so I can start some submits (before leaving) and I thought I would just pop into the reader a minute. BUT, I need to leave for Walmart right away and I have been waiting for this post! I can’t read this now, I’ll have to wait until later which means I’ll be crankier than usual during my Walmart trip b/c the shoppers are rude and the check-out people are SLOW!

    If I get in trouble for chewing out a Walmart customer or employee or get a ticket for speeding I will be holding you accountable.

    I’ll be back…

    +2 Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    I apologize in advance.


    Any violence that Carrie performs is not as a direct result of this blog. Dave accepts no responsibilty for broken noses obtained in the course of a Carrie going shopping.

    This blog is here for entertainment purposes only and in now way should be perceived as an excuse to perform physical violence on any other person (living or dead).

    You have the right to read this content but it in no way should be used as an excuse to bugger of to Walmart and shout at people………………..

    Vote -1 Vote +1Carrie Reply:


    You are in luck, I behaved myself. But I think you took the wrong stance here.

    Imagine if I had done something terrible at Walmart and ended up on the evening news murmuring about how I had to get home to read http://www.makingmoneyontheinternetfree.info right away. Scratch that, no one could remember that url if I said it on the news. Let’s say I made it into the city paper and the story went national with your url mentioned…talk about niche domination!

    This was a great read, thank you. I actually have a niche I want to zero in on and this gave me some ideas. I’m too cheap to tip you, though, sorry πŸ™‚

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:



    Good idea Carrie, next time you are out go and clobber someone and get it on the news. Tell them it was under the influence of this site and I will get tons of links. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaah

  4. Hey Dave
    I can confirm your findings with adding content to small satellite sites and forgetting about them. We do this with all our new sites. Drip feed the content, add a few bookmarks, a press release for bigG to index pages and leave for 4 to 6 weeks. Works great.

    Now I am back from hold Dave I am thinking of starting the blog!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Jason Reply:

    Excuse the typing and spelling. Sent from my phone!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Blackthorne Reply:

    @Jason, I’m currently doing this with my lenses.

    Speaking of which… yesterday one lens I’ve targeted got 49 visits.

    (no sales unfortunately)

    At the moment… it’s already at 49 visits, and there are still hours to go for this day’s statistics.

    It’s not ranking for much in particular, but it gets lots of long tails this lens.

    I hope it will get to the point at which it makes a handful of sales per week. It would add well over $350 per month, thereby paying for my writer.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Steph Reply:

    @Blackthorne, So you let your lenses age for a few weeks? I’ve been trickling links in slowly, but maybe I’d see more results with that method.

    One of these times I’m going to get something that actually converts…:)

    Vote -1 Vote +1Blackthorne Reply:

    @Steph, I kind of *have* to let’em age a bit.

    At 25, there are already too many to link up in a short while.

    I also trickle links slowly. All the time. I like it that way.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Jason Reply:

    Not tried it with lenses – we don’t build a huge amount of them.

    With new sites both authority and satelite sites, we start slowly with pure content – Big G prefers e-commerce and information sites over blatant affiliate sites. Therefore we don’t add any affiliate links for a number of weeks until G starts indexing the pages and trusting the site.

    We then start to ramp up link building and only once we start ranking do we begin adding affiliate links. This works well for us for the niches we’re in.

    Remember, there is no one size fits all – we use what works for us, others use what works for them. Find what works for you and milk it until the cows come home…

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Yeah, if you can be patient letting the content just age is definitely the best course before you start backlinking.

    Let me know if you start something up.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Jason Reply:

    Just showed you some BMR love….

    I will test it on some of our pages and see how it gets on – could be a post on the blog when I get round to it πŸ™‚

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Cheers, you won’t be dissappointed, it rocks big time.

  5. Wow. I thought I could just pop over here and read the post, but it took me almost a half an hour! What a great post, Dave!

    I’m still at the niche research level, because my current sites either don’t want to make me money or Google doesn’t want to like them :(. But that’s okay, I’ll find that perfect niche eventually…

    Squidoo, here I come! Because it sure would be awesome to earn 120,000 a year soon! (or even half of that!)

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    The sky is the limit, honestly. Finding good niches is the hard part but don’t forget that even stinky product niches are worth working on a little as they can still make good money at Christmas if you use Amazon.

  6. Hey Dave

    Only 10000 words…..come on dude….I thought I would see/read at least a 15k from you…..OK, now I need to put on a pot of coffee and get reading….like I don’t have other stuff to do….:)

    Thanks man…yes I know what to do….

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Next time Dude, I was feeling sleepy πŸ˜‰

  7. And yes, I did show some love today…I know …I know….your thinking …about bloody time your cheapo….hehe…

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Woo hoo!

  8. This post fits in perfect with my post I just wrote yesterday on my renewed energy of focusing on my winners instead of jumping from site to site. It gives me the validation that I need to prove that you can make good money if you put in the work.

    Thanks for the great post as it was great reading material while feeding the baby πŸ™‚

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    It is hard to focus I know, plus it gets very repetitive but really building up one niche is where the good money is.

    Baby feeding time material, who would have thunk it πŸ˜‰

  9. Dave,

    Well written post, thanks man. Most of the stuff here I knew, but I like the tips on facebook and using twitter – I found a video once about how to setup an automatic twitter account that posts articles from sources I find on the net. Use that with the auto updates plugins for content on my own sites and the followers and fans will be there over time.

    As far as aged content goes, you are right. Aged content is so much easier to rank.

    I recenty checked on of my small niche sites in the car repair niche and its ranking on page 1 for 4 of the 7 keywords I was going for. I literally made 1 UAW run a year or so ago when I started the blog….checked amazon, it made just over $30 last month selling one product. ps – the product is $13, so the commission amounts are small but I will now go in and create 30 – 40 more pages of content around diff products.

    Well that was a good read before I leave for vacation, thanks dave.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    If you have a real interest in something popular then the Twitter setup could be a good earner, I know a few peeps do well from it.

    Happy hols Eric have a good one.

  10. yay the big post arrived!

    Great stuff Dave. I took your advice and sat down with a sandwich to read πŸ™‚

    Many good thoughts going through head now on my plan of action. This and the Amazon post are must reads and will tell you more than any ebook out there.


    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    No probs, at least I am reminding everyone to eat! I am good for that at least.

  11. Bloody impressive post man!

    I’ve been doing the satellite sites thing for a couple of years now and its the way to go. For weight loss its the only way to compete and I have over 60 domain sites (never mind the hundreds of web 2.0/free blog properties) supporting my main site with more being added every so often when I can pick up a good pre-owned. That niche is a real dog fight!

    You’re spot on that smaller niches really benefit from a small support network of sites and its the only way to really take a niche.

    A big thanks for the FB page info. I think. Crap, now I have no excuse not to make a page! Although I like the idea of making the landing page one big affiliate link… mmm… screw all the welcome crud and go straight for the jugular! Like it πŸ™‚

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    That really is a tough niche Terry, don’t think I could handle that many sites though!

    The landing page can be named anything and you set it easily to be the first thing peeps see. I loved the simple one I talked about in the post but there are endless possibilities.

    Even large companies have links plastered all over their pages sending peeps to their product stores.

  12. Whew….that took a bit to read but was well worth it. When I got to the linkwheel diagram picture I almost stopped reading as I didn’t see the heading ‘should we do this’ and thought that I had to start doing that type of linking between sites – way to confusing at this point. Very happy to know that it isn’t totally necessary as it looks rather confusing – much easier doing your method. Thanks for your tips on FB – I have a personal account but find it a time sink so don’t go there often.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    No probs, the linkwheel is what a lot of people do but frankly I think it is way to confusing. Backlink content you want to rank and that is about it. Keeping it simple is the best policy, if only for your sanity.

  13. I read you and it makes me wonder why bother. Great, colossal, incredible post – and thanks for the link. I’d prefer if you used the anchor text “six pack washboard abs” to link to me, if you don’t mind. πŸ™‚

    This is why I keep telling everyone to read you first, you’re top of this game, Dave – and never stop with the sheer and utter awesomeness…thanks for puttin’ in the time.

    Vote -1 Vote +1JamestheJust Reply:


    “I read you and it make me wonder why bother (to write my own blog)” is what I meant by that vague first sentence…

  14. MAKES dangit…full of typos.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Just 3 comments? You are slipping James.

    Thanks for the kind words, means a lot. Sorry about the bad link, but let’s be real here Dude. I could change it to “six pack under a little covering” if you would like?

  15. Wow, I can’t wait to read this, not tonight though, I’m way too tired. There will no doubt be a drink in it for you too – Thanks Dave

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Don’t leave it too long, I am starving out here πŸ˜‰

  16. Hi Dave,

    Wow – Awesome post! You have definately earned the title of the ‘new Griz’.

    I think this is destined to become your second major anchor post for this blog – the first obviously being your ‘make money with amazon’ post.

    Quite simply brilliant.

    I tip my hat to you sir.

    t xx

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Thanks, really kind of you Tracey. But I don’t know a fraction of what the Bear knows, I just plod on with my simple knowledge.

  17. WOW! I love you πŸ™‚ Hehe, don’t get me wrong here, but this is really kicking some serious a** πŸ˜‰

    It also comes at the right time for me. I wrote in a previous post here that I will work on my stuff this year while keeping the day job, then quit.

    Well, on a second thought…..I have 1 year income worth of savings and no debt. So I will quit in 2 months and dedicate 1 year fully to this (with just some freelancing writing assignments on the side to make a bit of money and not eat up the savings at too fast pace).

    I will DO IT πŸ˜‰

    I wanna share with you Guys a great commercial – “WRITE THE FUTURE“…very inspirational! And yes, this is what we are doing baby, aren’t we? πŸ˜‰

    Thanks Dave!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    I wish you all the luck in the world Carlo. If you really go for it then I am sure you will make it a huge success.

    Love you too buddy πŸ˜‰

  18. Just for the record, I donated – if you read this and don’t, a pox on your fingers. Chicken pox.

    Alright, that’s a bit strong – but seriously, that’s a $20 post on the cheap side.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Ooh, cool. Everyone listen to James, he knows what he is talking about πŸ˜‰

  19. Thanks Dave, some real gems in there. Lisa from InlineSEO.com has a few ideas similar to yours regarding supporting sites, check her out if you feel like it (I’m not connected with her in any way, except as a customer).

    Facebook – you really have gone over to the dark side. But hey, Facebook business pages, even if you never get any “likes” for social proof, are a free PR10 backlink. One of my sites jumped from page 180 or so to page 2 with a single link from Facebook:-)

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    The links are nofollow though on Facebook aren’t they. Although weirdly I did jump back to number 1 from number 2 once I did my business page. The likes are simple, just get someone on Fiverr to do it, then you can get the 25 to change the business page name to a good SEO title.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Rachel Reply:

    @Dave, Yes, they are nofollow. That’s part of the reason I asked whether you had tested using/not using nofollow on your Amazon links. Something doesn’t add up with nofollow despite what Matt Cutts says. Anyway it is very late here, I am probably talking rubbish:-)

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    I haven’t tested keeping my Amazon links dofollow, I don’t think it would make a difference to your own rankings. It is just that you would be helping out the competition is all.

    Night night, sweet dreams πŸ˜‰

  20. Also just wondering whether your recommendation to no-follow Amazon links is based on your own testing (yes, cheeky I know).

    Vote -1 Vote +1Tracey Reply:

    @Rachel, Hi Rachel, I actually have done testing on this because I wanted to see what will happen.

    Some people have said that G can punish you if you don’t nofollow your aff links. I didn’t find that at all.

    From my observations it doesn’t hurt your rankings if you forget to nofollow, but you do pass some of your link juice to the site you are linking to allowing them to rank higher.

    Your objective is to get higher than the site you are linking to, so it’s best not to help them πŸ˜‰ Therefore Dave’s suggestion to nofollow the links is correct (of course).

  21. Anyone found any decent facebook fan page templates? I just want something simple that looks neat so I won’t have to spend valuable link building time wrestling with it!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    I did my own but I am sure there are loads out there.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Carrie Reply:


    What?? I thought you were non-techie.

    I couldn’t find any good free ones either. Looks like there are some sellers on Fiverr but I haven’t tried it yet. Dang, I love Fiverr!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    I think in the apps section on FB there are some that allow you to use a page from your website as the business page, but you are on your own with that one girl, I am getting dizzy πŸ˜‰

    Vote -1 Vote +1Carrie Reply:


    I hacked something together for now. I didn’t realize you could use simple html to design the space. Thanks!

  22. “maybe whisk the Wife off upstairs for a cuddle” Now we’re talking stress relief at its best πŸ™‚

    Q: is there away to get around BMR 10 links per domain per day rule?

    I would like to use my 50 bullets daily on a single domain please.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    You need to make 5 projects with the domain in them. Then just keep those 5 projects active.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Youssef Reply:


    Thanks Dave.

    It doesn’t allow me to add/create a project using the same domain name. I must be missing something?

    Vote -1 Vote +1Ryan Reply:


    Unfortunately the new BMR does not allow that. I have tried to reason with them but they are not budging. Maybe they don’t want their network to die a horrible death because some newbie was spamming it.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    I dunno, someone should help you out, I have the old version where it was different.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Youssef Reply:


    Yeah the new version doesn’t allow that. No worries…time to launch few satellite sites as discussed.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Build My Rank Reply:


    There’s no difference in adding domains between old users and new users. We’ll allow a user to add sites like hubpages, squidoo, EZA, etc to multiple projects, but you cannot add a private domain to multiple projects.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:

    @Build My Rank,

    Thanks for clearing that up, I did wonder why some sites were allowed multiple times and some not. Makes sense.

  23. I was cooking dinner when I happened to just flip over to your site to see if there were any new comments on your last post….and then I see this monster post of yours – I got a chair and sat down and read it in one go. Thankfully, dinner did not burn πŸ™‚

    You’ve outdone yourself again…you’ve mentioned quite a few of these gems in your other posts but tying everything together into a huge post and including your info on satellite sites and the Facebook stuff was so generous of you to share.

    I’m sure you beat some goo-rooooo to creating a $97 ebook on how to set up FB business pages. You saved me hours alone – I don’t even have a FB account and don’t like the sound of any of that social media stuff….at all……..but your info, not only have you saved me countless hours and days trying to figure it all out, but you have laid it down in nice steps, so it would be foolish to not even try.

    Thank you Dave.

    I have a question: Regarding the satellite sites – surely you need to register the domains to different names and addresses because if you buy them all under your 1 name and address, then, even if you have them hosted on unique Class-C blocks, the domain registrars know that all your supporting sites belong to the same person. Surely the search engines have access to the Whois data and would know that you are actually a link farm as you are cross-linking all your sites? Or am I missing something here?

    Sending you some cha-ching cha-ching…bbbb-bling bbb-bling….

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    You should be able to follow the Facebook stuff fairly easy. Although in a typical fashion they are apparently making some changes in the next few days and the FBML stuff will then be different. Typical.

    As to the whois you can set that to private. What the bots then see I am not sure but as long as you make good quality support sites there is no problem. A link is still a link.

    Even getting them on different IP’s is up for debate. I would play it safe and do that but even if all your sites are on the same IP the links still work well, a link is a link is a link. All little caution in one thing but going too far just makes your head hurt πŸ˜‰

    Vote -1 Vote +1Terry Reply:

    @Tara, Dave’s right in that you can get too bogged down in worrying about domain registration.

    I have a lot of sites, so I use private regiatration for some satellite sites. I also register some in different names (family names and addresses). I host them on a few different servers to get different c class IPs but I don’t go mad.

    There is some debate about the value of SEO hosting accounts. Think about it. Unless each IP (or IP pair) is associated with a different pair of nameservers, they ain’t really separate and they’re trackable to the same server account regardless of IP!

    One thing you should know is that even using private registration will not keep you completely hidden. Google are registrars and therefore can access that information if they really want to. Chances are they are not interested in spending valuable resources manually checking who owns a handful of domains here and there. So in the main you are safe enough using privacy especially to keep your domain info safe from competitors, unless you are intent on building a massive link farm.

    Most of us of course won’t be doing that. The creation, content writing, maintenance and hosting costs would be totally massive.

    Best to keep things pretty simple and manageable and you shouldn’t have any problems.

    Vote -1 Vote +1JanisG Reply:

    Regarding satellite sites. You can use Web 2.0 properties/blogs as satellite sites. Make blogger blog, or wordpress.com site, Tumblr, etc. There is a lot of them out there. Publish 3 to 5 articles (even spun content will do!) on each blog, add videos and pictures to look less spamy, and link to your main site. And now you can use some less kosher linking methods to link your Web 2.0 blogs – mass forum profile linking with Sick or Xrumer, lots of blog comment links, mass articles submissions and others.

  24. Thanks Terry, JanisG

    I am very good when it comes to over complicating things and my brain often hurts a lot πŸ™

    I have quite a few domains that are really on separate IPs as in they all resolve to different nameservers and then some on hosting packages that all end up resolving to the same nameserver.

    I think I’m really going to ramp up using a the free Web 2.0 properties.

  25. Ouch, 49 visits to the lens the day before yesterday and 73 visits to the lens yesterday… and no sales.

    How is it possible that a lens makes a sale with its first few visitors and no more once it gets many?

    Last month I sold 60 items on Amazon. For this month I am at 3.

    At this rate I won’t even get in the 6% payout structure (which requires 7 items).

    I’ve had quiet weeks like this one before and it’s no fun. Anybody else suffers from this phenomenon?

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Try having a Hub that gets 1000 peeps a day and no sales. Now THAT hurts!

    I have only sold 552 things from 8721 clicks on Amazon so far this month so don’t feel bad πŸ˜‰

    Sorry, couldn’t resist Blackthorne. It really is just about scale, masses and masses of your affiliate links all over the place, or hitting on a real winner. My Amazon money is from an absolute ton of different places, all adding up over the long run. I do whole niches that never make a sale.

    I have sites I spent months on and get a few hundred visitors a day and make a few sales a year if I am lucky. But in time it all just adds up.

    That, or someone is nicking your tracking ID!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Blackthorne Reply:

    @Dave, How the hell do you ‘nick’ someone’s tracking id?

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    How do you think I made my sales?

    Actually I have no idea.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Blackthorne Reply:

    @Dave, Then you were prolly joking.

    To see my conversion rate go from 4% to less than 1% hurts like an SOB.

    Because of increased traffic to Amazon from Squidoo, I am now making up for the lost traffic that used to be sent by my sweatshirt sites.

    No more dozens of cheap-a$$ sweatshirt sales, but fewer high priced sales.

    I’m just gonna focus on increasing my Amazon traffic to new levels now, even though I’m sick to my stomach after 5 days of no sales.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Josh Reply:


    Well I guess I’m glad I’m not the only one who is having conversion rate problems. I was set to make about $2k again this month, but because my CR tanked I will probably make $400.

    Also, apparently you can take over someone’s affiliate links with some kind of MySQL injection.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Blackthorne Reply:

    @Josh, On which site?

    Vote -1 Vote +1Josh Reply:


    That squidoo lense I’ve told you about before.

    I’m sure my other pages are having trouble with conversion rates as well, but they rarely get sales in the first place, so it is hard to tell.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Blackthorne Reply:

    @Josh, Nobody’s injecting sql on your lenses mate.

    Let’s not get *that* paranoid!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Josh Reply:


    hahahaha, I thought you meant what site was having the conversion rate problem.

    I’ve never had anyone mysql inject one of my sites. I have just read about it.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Terry Reply:

    @Blackthorne, for WP blogs, a hacker can do a mysql inject if they get access to the wpconfig.php file – that’s where the mysql password lives and its NOT encrypted. Once they get that password they can get into the database via an appropriate app. Or they get into cpanel via brute force attack. Either way, they can get into the database and just edit the posts with any links in them and replace the urls with their own.

    That’s what happened to BMR a couple of weeks ago. Someone got past the server security, probably brute force attack, and got into the databases for a bunch of blogs and you know the rest.

    It can also happen to people who mess with file security on their hosts and don’t know what they’re doing, then allow anyone to read the config file. You’d have to be real lucky to find a file with a 777, but there are hackers out here with software looking for exactly that security breach all day every day.

    Doesn’t it just make you feel so cozy and secure knowing how safe your stuff really is LMAO!!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Yikes, I wish you hadn’t told me!

    Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water πŸ˜‰

    It’s amazing what is possible if you have some knowledge, I really need to get on to static sites. All these WP updates are a pain, I have to say.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Blackthorne Reply:

    @Terry, I know how that works.

    My own hosting won’t allow connections to be made to their databases from computers that aren’t in the hosting network.

    It really helps a lot!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Build My Rank Reply:


    Actually it was via the wordpress post commenting script (and we do not even have comments enabled). They didn’t need direct DB access. These hackers are pretty crafty.

    If you’ve got a wordpress blog, install the WordPress Firewall 2 plugin and you’ll be amazed at the hack attempts that come thru on your site.

    Vote -1 Vote +1mkt Reply:


    In the end it comes down to the person who is buying it! It is totally random, you can’t put a number on whether a person is likely to buy it or not.

    Conversion means nothing ! it is just a number. It is pretty useless in the end. In this game you just have to accept it and move on. Build it, and see how much money it will make.

    Like Dave said in the end it is about getting yourself out there, and getting the link and cookie. (This EU law thing, is going to be interesting!)

    Anyway good luck

  26. On Facebook, I had a page that had enough likes to change the username but when I tried it was asking for SMS authentication. Since I have more than one account (which is a no-no) I didn’t do that.

    But, I set up my FB pages the old-fashioned way by joining as a regular user, then creating pages. Since I don’t like to mingle certain niches I have a couple of users with their own pages and if I SMS one user, I won’t be able to do another (or FB will know I have multiple accts, make sense?). Anyway, not sure how that affects things now that you can set up business pages without a personal FB account.

    I also always have trouble trying to import my feed onto FB. From what I have read I am not alone, sounds like you can only successfully import when Saturn and Mercury are aligned. Or maybe it was Jupiter and Venus, I can’t remember.

    Yeah, FB is a pain but glad I am on there just in case it becomes important.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    We just used different numbers to get the SMS, doesn’t seem to be a problem. I think Facebook changed their rules so you can have more than one account didn’t they?

    It is amazing how clunky the whole thing is though isn’t it. I expected it to be UBER slick and super simples to use.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Carrie Reply:


    How many phones do you have? Or am I missing something – need a cell phone number, right?

    I don’t think you are suppose to have more than one non-business account, though. But who knows. It certainly isn’t an intuitive set up.

    Vote -1 Vote +1JamestheJust Reply:


    You can use a friend’s phone, I think I just used the same phone for my accounts (two). Try it – or pay someone on Fiverr to set one up. Or to set up 10. Get your money’s worth…

    Vote -1 Vote +1Josh Reply:


    I’m pretty sure you are allowed to have a personal account and a business account. So definitely try the same phone twice.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Carrie Reply:


    I think I actually have 3 personal accounts.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Carrie Reply:


    Okay, what if I don’t have any friends?

    Didn’t think of fiverr, thanks.

    Vote -1 Vote +1JamestheJust Reply:


    Wow. That is transparent. πŸ˜›

    I had a few verified accounts set up on Fiverr for PingFM and Amplify. I think YOU told me about it!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    We used a few old sims, my mums numero, etc.

  27. tl;dr πŸ˜‰

    just joking, I did read it – lots of good stuff there (and I like the headers!) My problem is that I have two passion sites, both in niches that convert, and both with more than enough keywords to keep me busy for several lifetimes, and I can’t choose which of them to focus on (or whether to work on both). One has just been sandboxed for the second time for no obvious reason, so I’m putting it on the back burner for now, but long term, I can’t decide.

    And in spite of your excellent instructions, I’m still resisting being assimilated into Facebook…

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Nothing wrong with working on them both. The main thing is that you have niches you know convert, the hard part is over. Shame about the sandboxing though, these things are sent to test our staying power πŸ˜‰

    As for FB, I don’t blame you. But the business pages don’t need you to be on there all the time, but that section was just a little tip for anyone that wants to do one anyway.

    Bet you are on Twitter all the time though πŸ˜‰ What about Plurk, lots of Women that like knitting are on there. It looks better than Twitter too.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Cat Reply:


    Don’t get me wrong, your tips are great, & I don’t doubt that FB would be helpful, but after a bit of soul searching, I’ve realised that there’s only so much that I’m willing to do in this business. I’m limiting myself with this attitude, but feel better for it, even if it means leaving money on the table. I do respect those like you and many here who are giving it everything though.

    Twitter – heh, I have three Twitter accounts (for different sites), and have a grand total of about 10 tweets between them. I don’t find it as repellent as FB, but I can’t say i really ‘get’ it.
    Never heard of Plurk (though I quite fancy learning to knit one day!). I’m just not social enough lol πŸ˜€

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Good for you CAT. I know it seems like I am a social guy as I chat a lot here but I am one of the most reclusive people you will probably ever find. Heck, I live up a mountain in the middle of nowhere.

    And, most people are plain annoying.

    Present company apart, of course πŸ˜‰

    Vote -1 Vote +1JamestheJust Reply:


    Twitter, in a word: Hootsuite. In another: Amplify. In a third: PingFm…Just sayin’.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Um, OK.


    Vote -1 Vote +1JamestheJust Reply:


    These are all free ways to automate your Twitter feeds and Facebook updates – so now when I set up a new site, I have someone on Fiverr set up PingFM and all their services (about 50), Facebook included – and Amplify as well. That way I use Amplify on my satellites when I post something (and now Social Monkee, too – another free service – drip fed blasts to 100-300 social sites a day)…and PingFM has their own integration with WordPress.

    Every post gets auto-broadcast to my PingFM network, and it includes Facebook and Twitter.

    Hootsuite, PingFM and Amplify…holy cow – this is another post in itself. They’re free to use, you can fill up your Twitter with as many messages as you need, then you walk away and get the monies.

    Or, I do when I remember to – really, I’ve made about $400 doing this.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Carrie Reply:


    Dang, I was proud of myself for setting up twitterfeed. Now I’m gonna have to bug you on this one.

  28. Very insightful post Dave. I especially like the suggestion of looking at Amazon reviews to get ideas of how popular they are. Do you find that products with lots of reviews have higher conversion rates?

    You’re a refreshing breath of air in the IM community, and I appreciate the incredible knowledge you give away here.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Thanks, it is nice to hear. Good reviews can go a long way, no doubt about it. It just gives that extra boost to peoples confidence to part with their hard earned.

  29. Wonderful post. Instead of making complex link wheel. I like to make simple matrix type links.
    main site
    satellite sites
    other properties.

    I am very much agreed with long tail keywords converts well as compared to the exact keywords. E.G. white shocks.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Thanks Dude, hope all is going well for you.

  30. Dave, I’d gladly donate but I can’t see how to change the amount and $5 is far too low! How do I send more, other than multiple $5 amounts?

    This is a fantastic post, it’s going to take several readings to absorb it all. I’m trying to work out how to set up a FB page that’s not linked to my main, personal account. I logged out and saw the “Create a Page” link – is that how you did it? And does that keep the Page quite separate from the main account so it won’t show on my personal profile?

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Just go to http://www.facebook.com/pages/create.php when you are logged out and take it from there following the instruction in my post. Although I am going to amend it right now as in their wisdom they have changed from tomorrow how you design the page. I will update it now. But if then when you are logged back in as your personal account and you have made yourself an admin for the business page as long as you chose the option to post on the business page as the business it is all totally separate. Convoluted or what!

    As for a tip, 5 bucks is cool, I am not greedy πŸ˜‰ Plus I think I have had about ten or 12 tips already from this post so I be rich innit!!!!!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Isobel Reply:

    @Dave, Thanks, I look forward to the FB update. What I don’t want is for my personal account name to show up on the business page as an admin.

    10 or 12 tips should buy you a good few bottles of Cava – if not a case πŸ™‚

    I know you’re not greedy but I’ve paid out enough for sheer crap, it makes a change to feel good about paying for some real value – and to a fellow ex-pat Brit to boot. I’ll just have to do it the long way around πŸ˜›

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    I go the tip Isobel and it really is appreciated. It means a lot so thank you very much.

  31. Congrats for your site! I found some useful information here. And I find it motivating as well.

    How come PR0 then? Another proof that “content is king” does not always apply!

    Good luck!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Hah, you would not believe it Dude. Almost a year of being here, massive comment streams all with each comment as an indexed page. Tons of content, links and the like, and search that equals a few peeps a day coming here.

    Proof that you need to build backlinks for your targetted terms if you want to rank. I don’t do it for this site as it is fun, but it is all about the links baby, “content is king” is not what the search engines are about.

    Vote -1 Vote +1JamestheJust Reply:


    PageRank doesn’t equal quality, it just means you know how to craft PageRank. Nofollow everything outbound, link out to high PR sites with a nofollow…

    or dofollow…

    Minimal sitewide dofollow links, if any (ahem: this post is the ONLY dofollow sitewide link on my site, by the freaking way – it’s that awesome)…

    Use internal linking to share PR to important pages…

    Use a tight taxonomy for your categories, properly SEO’d…


    Who cares on a site like this? The real proof is in the advice, the community, etc. Pagerank is not quality, it’s just a measurement of your SEO knowledge if anything, and how well you can game PR.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    I appreciate that link too James, very much. I don’t pay attention to PR on my sites really. I have sites with PR4 that rank like a dream and PR0 ones that are the same. But I find that ones that have blogrolls linking in get PR easily, for what it is worth.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Lando @ Docking Bay 94 Reply:


    I’ll have something substantive to add to a discussion about PR after the next update. From the people that I’m listening to though, not linking to other sites or nofollowing links to other sites is a order of magnitude less important than simply having links from high PR sites/pages.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:

    @Lando @ Docking Bay 94,

    Where you been Bunk. Missed you.

    I gotta agree with you buddy, links from high PR pages is gonna get you the goods.

  32. Brilliant post! I cannot thank you enough!

    About the satellite sites…

    If i had a domain i made about six months ago and has about 20 backlinks pointing to it. Would it be ok to add a few pages to it and hammer out backlinks to it?

    Even though i havent touched it in ages?

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:

    @Max K,

    I wouldn’t hammer it, just do a few a day and keep it slow for a good couple of months then ramp it up. It should stop it from getting hit, but nothing in this game is certain.

  33. Dave, you have out done yourself again…… I also want to put a plug in to you who are still on the fence about investing in BMR. Honestly I thought Dave was hyping up the fact about jumping a whole page with 10 bmr links.

    I did 10 bmrs the other day and one of my keywords came out of never land to page 3. i added 4 more links and now it is at the top of page 2…. my only quesition is… WHAT HAVE I BEEN WAITING FOR!!

    I am now getting busines just building more links to my existing product pages that have no backlinks but have already made sales even though they are not on page one for keywords. image the increase in my income if i commit to improving this one thing rather than add more content right now.

    if you have not already done so, please sign up with BMR through Dave’s link. YOu will thank me later.
    You may already be sitting on a goldmine with the content you already have….

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Great results, sounds like things are going really well Dee. And thanks for the plug, it’s appreciated.

    Have a very good year, sounds like you are on the right track no doubt. It really is worth spending the time to backlink everything up before getting too much more content on sites that already have content needing attention. Go for it Dee!!!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dee Reply:


    Thanks Dave! I am a BMR Junky now. Im am in continuous writing mode now. On my lunch break. before I go to bed.
    Just a little tip, what I have been doing to always have something to write about connected to my keywords.

    I own a Nook. They have lots of free books that I down load that are related to my key word. I download the book. read a few pages and it gives me ideas to right about 5 or 6 150 articles before moving on to the next page. For example, if I have a product review using the keyword
    “shampoo for dry hair” I do a search on my nook under ebooks for hair care. the results will yield several results, mostly books you have to buy. But their are always free books that are related and some as low as .99. But I never purchase any books for the purpose of doing BMRs. If you do this. DONT COPY their ebook. Use it to spark your own ideas for an article or at the very least rewrite word for word.

    I have stopped along time ago doing my article research online since everyone does it that way. I like to research material offline.

    I hope this is a tip everyone can use. I definitely keeps me with lots of content that I can produce for BMRs. you may even want to use this method to help you produce original content for your sites. blesssings.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Great tips there and that is certainly a good way to get ideas to write about that may not have been covered by others.

    But Dee, a Nook? That is so last year πŸ˜‰

    Um, not that I know what one is really, just what I heard all the cool kids say!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dee Reply:

    LOL I love my nook. They are coming out with a nook tablet soon I plan to get. I am a read-aholic. and I did not want an ipad. I only wanted a reading device. I love it. I can stick it in my purse. purchase books anywhere any time. i mainly read business, human capital (work related) and motivational books so this was perfect for me

  34. There’s a very popular WSO for a WordPress plugiin to create Fan Pages that just came out. It’s $17 for unlimited personal use until March 23rd. I’ve bought it but haven’t had a chance to try it out yet.

    Vote -1 Vote +1JamestheJust Reply:


    Daniel Tan just released FBMaxed, too – is that the one? I wanted to get it but..ah…I dunno. I’m a cheapskate. I might, though – since FB is losing the FMHTML or whatever it was called – now it’s all iFrames and harder for a schmuck like me to configure a fan page.

    Maybe Dave’s doing a tutorial? I’d pay $17 here first…hint…hint…

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    No way Dude πŸ˜‰

    Vote -1 Vote +1JamestheJust Reply:


    That looks great, the $17 WSO…nice! Thanks.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Ooh, I will look in to that. Sounds interesting, thanks Isobel.

  35. Hi Dave, good to see you got the post up. Some good info on satellite sites, will definitely be putting a few up in the coming months…

    Had a question though since I’m still quite new when it comes to Amazon affiliate sites, have you even entered a niche with all ‘legit’ websites on the front page (As in they actually sell the products directly rather then just being affiliates on Amazon) ans surpassed a good amount of these results? For example you set up an affiliate sites for socks, and on the front pages there’s real shops selling socks like ‘socksareus.com’ and whitesocks.com’.

    Would like to know this, as just realised I’m in a similar situation with one of my two Amazon sites I’ve got going lol.

    I know Grizz talks about it’s not realistic to rank on the front page for credit cards with an article and Adsense as all the front page are real credit card companies, so was wondering if this was the same…

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:

    @Shaun L,

    I certainly have, and for a number of niches and products. Many of my niches are full of online stores and Amazon themselves.

    At the moment it is all about the backlinks baby, you can certainly beat them all, especially with ages content.

    You know I have been thinking quite a lot about this “legit” or “non legit” thing recently. Are we just in the way of real stores by making affiliate sites?

    I now think of it as me simply being a worker for the companies of my choice. I work on commission only and I am an extension of their online presence. I am there to increase their position on page 1 of the serps and am an update of the man walking the street with a sign pointing to the golf shop.

    That is “legit” isn’t it? Affiliates are actually a boon to all businesses, we get them free advertising and do all the hard work and increase their brand while not always getting a commission. Nothing wrong with that and we can certainly rank better than them too, whilst taking the risk of no return!

    Poor us πŸ˜‰

    Vote -1 Vote +1Isobel Reply:

    @Dave, Interesting point. I got an email from a jewellery merchant (sent to all affiliates, not just me), saying that they wouldn’t pay commission if your site was above them in the SERPs for their main keywords!! That to me was completely nuts and I wrote him a “sharp” email back saying that I wouldn’t trouble them with any further sales!

    I understand why merchants don’t want us to outbid them in PPC but in the SERPs?? Gimme a break!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Terry Reply:

    @Isobel, I think if a merchant sent me an email like that, I’d enjoy telling him that I would do everything in my power to get another 4 sites outranking his and send all the traffic to one of his competitors.

    Remember: “Affiliates control the traffic!”

    That’s what we do and why we do it!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Mental. Their loss anyway, bet they will regret it pretty soon.

  36. I’ve gone a whole week without Amazon sales despite sending 50 uniques a day on average.

    Anybody else seeing lousy sales last week?

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dee Reply:

    @Blackthorne, I have not had that issue. this has been the first day this week i have not had any sales.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Blackthorne Reply:

    @Dee, Every once in a while, I have a week without sales. EDIT *Makes me really happy* me off when it happens.

    This ain’t stopping me. I just got twice as EDIT *happy and glad to be alive* as I normally am.

    And I’m putting all this energy into increasing my targeted traffic.

    This is Dave writing this:Every time you swear I am going to edit your post and charge you five dollars.

    You are in the company of a proper Lady (Dee), so watch your manners and be polite.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Blackthorne Reply:

    @Blackthorne, You’re right, I shouldn’t insult proper ladies by making a statement about my own state of mind.

    Vote -1 Vote +1JanisG Reply:

    Yes. The day before yesterday was first day without the sales since October. Yesterday – one sale of USD15. I know I know. I am grateful to the Universe and so on πŸ˜‰

    Vote -1 Vote +1Josh Reply:


    My conversion rate bounced up to 5.56% today. Whatever is going on might be over.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Blackthorne Reply:

    @Josh, Me too. Sold another expensive thing.

    I deserved it after a whole week of being dry.

    Vote -1 Vote +1JamestheJust Reply:


    Usually, changing seasons affects sales – cold > warm months, depending on what you’re selling…a lot of my sales go down in summer, but that’s actually widespread in a lot of businesses in general. Most spending occurs during the Fall / Winter / Holidays – then again in Spring…

    Or spending habits transfer from this to that (spring cleaning, lawn supplies, outdoor stuff).

    Vote -1 Vote +1Josh Reply:


    The item I’m selling is the definition of an evergreen item, but you might be right that the changing season could have done it. It definitely became spring(atleast where I’m at) sometime in the last 2 weeks.

    I’ve already sold another item today, so I think I have my old CR back. I might actually make some money this month after all.

  37. Friday is poetry day at the blog. My last few hours of the week have left me feeling burned:

    Tip Tap
    My fingers fall
    Without my brain being engaged at all
    I know it makes sense
    I know it reads well
    I just wonder, well, what the hell
    It may not be golden
    It may not win prizes
    But after 25,000 words it sure won’t surprise us

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    I hope what you wrote reads better than your poems!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Carrie Reply:


    Talking to yourself again?

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    End of the week tiredness catching up with me.

    +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Carrie Reply:


    May want to consider some Java,
    And lay off the Cava!

  38. So I’m backlinking one particular Lens that ranked fairly quickly for an expensive product.

    Today I see it down in the serps a little.

    Will more backlinks hurt it or will it likely be pushed to the top quicker?

    Vote -1 Vote +1JamestheJust Reply:



    Vote -1 Vote +1Blackthorne Reply:

    @JamestheJust, Yes what?

    Vote -1 Vote +1JamestheJust Reply:


    Yes. Yes.

    Hard to say, really – over-optimizing and high link velocity too soon – like dozens of “keyword longtail number one” links = flag G’s spam filter.

    It’s something you can test for on your own, but over-optimization isn’t a good thing when you link build (or like when you stuff keywords on your pages unnaturally, same thing).

    But I don’t know what you’ve been doing, so can’t say what will happen. Slowing down and varying your anchor text, building a satellite network of links you can link to – this will help buffer the effect.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Blackthorne Reply:

    @JamestheJust, I managed to get that lens ranking and pulling in traffic again by adding 400 words in a text capsule.

    It was in position again for 1 day and then it fell back again.

    I’m just going to keep adding text to it just as long until it keeps floating high!

  39. Evening all – going to selfishly try and take advantage of Dave’s popularity to see if anyone is interested in a WordPress plugin I’ve just finished.

    It’s sort of like a “Squidutils” for WordPress, you just have to put a small tag in your posts or template and you get a highly converting product image with your affiliate tag embedded in it. If you’re interested, I’d welcome feedback over here. Be good to test it a bit before putting it out to a wider audience.

    P.S. My first WordPress plugin, so go easy ; )

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Everyone should definitely give it a try. I have tested a version of it and it is super simple to use and certainly looks great.

    Makes it quick to insert affiliate images and links that look professional and should up conversions.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Josh Reply:


    Any chance you could use this without putting in your Amazon ID?

    I’m still using Amazon through another company(until my state legislator will grow some balls and repeal the amazon tax like they said they would when we elected them…)

    Vote -1 Vote +1Billy Reply:


    Most probably…however, do you mean without having any tacking id at all, or without me inserting my own tracking ID every 10 clicks?

    Feel free to drop me a comment on the post here and I can email you to discuss.

    Just realised you can’t leave comments on pages…ooops.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Josh Reply:


    Yeah, without having any amazon tracking ID at all.

    The links I use with skimlinks.com usually look like this


    Vote -1 Vote +1Billy Reply:

    @Josh, Ah, I see. I assume that because you’re in a State where you can’t get commissions, you route through Skimlinks and you get the credit for any purchases through them?

    It looks like Skimlinks do have an API to shorten links through them. The only problem is that I would need to log into the API as you, so you would get the credit for purchases. Happy to look into this if you want, but guessing you’re probably not keen on giving your details to some random on the Internet!

    I could easily shorten the links with something like bit.ly, but that doesn’t solve the problem of not using a tracking ID.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Josh Reply:


    I was just hoping your widget would create an image and I could link it to whatever page I wanted.

    Don’t worry about changing anything for me, I’ll keep doing what I’m doing.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Billy Reply:

    @Josh, all the logic runs on a server and is sent back to the plugin, so if you give me an Amazon affiliate ID that you own, I can set you up a custom version of the plugin that you pass a link to, and it detects that it’s “Josh” and redirects you to whatever link you gave.

    Not as much effort as it sounds, just let me know : )

  40. Hi Everyone, If anyone could give me their learned advice:

    I managed to get a site to no 5 on the first page of G for a fairly high converting keyword and everything was rosy for a week or 2 then it disappeared for a couple of weeks before coming back for a day then down to 85 for a week then back in at no 5 for a day (this seems to be the pattern). Its over a year old and I only sent about 3 BMRs max per day. Does this seem like the google dance to anyone? or have I messed up. I added a few new posts (which would go straight in to top 3) and was getting long tails.

    Any opinions would be much appreciated as it’s pretty frustrating (you know when you feel like you’re getting somewhere then you get knocked on your ass…)

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Try sending links from other places and make sure that if you use BMR you don’t always just write 150 words. Also change the category now and then that you pick.

    Sounds like the dance but could also be not enough content on the site as a whole, not enough links to other pages on the site, links that are not varied enough (make some “bad” ones).

    And also, these things just happen and it is very frustrating.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dean Reply:

    Ah, that sounds right – maybe I’ve been doing too many short BMRs. By bad links do you mean unhelpful anchor text like ‘click here’?
    Many thanks Dave!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Exactly. What I get all my outsourcers to do now is do 30% of keywords they make up themselves. So if I get my darling Filipino to do 15 Postrunners a day she will do 10 with the anchor I specify and 5 will be of her own making. It makes it a lot more natural and I sleep a little better.

    Also vary where the link is. You don’t want 100 BMR links of 150 words all with the greatest anchor ever and all in the first paragraph. It may be over cautious but it looks more natural.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dean Reply:

    15 Postrunners a day! You slave driver lol
    Seriously though that makes a great deal of sense,

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:



    That’s half a days work, although I pay a full time wage 8)

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dean Reply:

    Just checking my site’s source code, and noticed that it has two sets of ‘keywords’ and ‘description’ meta tags thanks to having the ‘all in one seo pack plugin’ and it’s wordpress theme (Socrates). I think this might be the cause, so I’ve disabled the plugin and will hope for the best. I’ll update if there’s any change, sigh…

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    It certainly won’t hurt, that’s for sure. That is a weird one, never heard of it happening but I guess you must just be lucky πŸ˜‰

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dean Reply:

    Just an update: I changed the theme to the default wordpress one (having tidied it up a bit) and within 24 hours it had returned to no 4. Coincidence? I don’t think so this time, as it’s still there now having hopefully stabilised (yipppeeee!)
    Thanks for your advice Dave, it’s great to get a second opinion. I should have kept building links while it was nowhere to be seen (as you have often said) and it might have come back even higher.
    Do you recommend sending Backlink Solutions links to on site posts or to external links in a supporting role? I’m doing a bit of both, but would appreciate your opinion if you have time.
    Thanks Matey!!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Carrie Reply:


    I did something recently with a site that had been penalized – looked like a “-50 penalty”. The site bounced back to #2 overnight but unfortunately that didn’t lost long (like a day).

    Hope you have better luck!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dean Reply:

    Thats’ what this site was doing, in for a day out for a week or two, talk about a roller coaster, it’s not good being emotionally attached to a website position – it’s like betting on a horse that keeps getting to the front of the pack, falling over and getting back up!
    Hopefully yours will bounce back like mine has, though I’m sure mine hasn’t finished it’s dance yet…

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    In the past I have done both, currently I have not used BS for a few months. I keep getting the spinning fear and avoid it πŸ™‚ I have plans to use it this well though.

    In the past I was pretty gung ho about using it and would send links direct to money sites. Now I am of the opinion that if you have a site that you really could not bear to lose then play it very safe.

    The reality is that I don’t think it would hurt your site or you could take out competition easily but I get more paranoid the better that my sites do. So, um, up to you! I would use it on sites that are not major earners but for your precious ones play as clean as you can, i.e no links from spun content now. But just an opinion.

    But congrats on the site coming back, sometimes themes really can effect rankings, weird but it happens.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dean Reply:

    More wise words, thank you! You made me realise that in my eagerness to get my sites ranking I haven’t been thinking about long term factors.

    Best regards,

  41. Can anyone enlighten me regarding IP Classes? Im just quite confused regarding any stuff that tackles the IP Classes for linking. Some says that IP Classes are determined by the range like 1-126 then 128 to something.. while some say it is determined by this method AAA.BBB.CCC.XXX

    If its the latter then here is my example…
    If the C Block is the same then its not good cross linking sites under that block.While if the C Block is different like for example AAA.BBB.123.XXX linking to AAA.BBB.122.XXX is it considered a good block to cross link with?

    I know that a link is still a link but I just need any enlightenment guys, I just can’t seem to figure out who to believe…

    I have even read that the Class C IP is the best one… If it is then Would that mean that if a site is hosted on an IP like 172.456.231.123 and links to a site with an IP of lets say, would that mean its bad because it has the same Class C Block??

    … Darn it, I don’t even understand the words that I am typing anymore… Any enlightenment would be so effin awesome to have right now…

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Unless you are making a mini network of satellite sites then I wouldn’t even worry about it. Links from your own sites on the same hosting are still just as relevant.

    But as for the rest, I will let someone else answer. Just keep it simple and don’t stress too much. Vary hosting if you are making small sites for links to keep it more separate but mainly just get the links and don’t over think it is my best advice.

    +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Terry Reply:

    @JhayDee, You should try and get links from as many different sources as possible and that includes sites that exist on different C class IPs. It is the C class that gives the separation that Google counts as being different enough that a group of sites are not all owned and hosted by the same person, ie a link farm.

    That said, when building your own group of satellite sites, you should have some separation. This can be done either by using separate hosting accounts or by opting for SEO hosting which is a single account with several different C class IPs associated with the server your sites will be living on. You allocate an IP to a domain this way, but its not fool proof.

    I wrote this in a comment above: “There is some debate about the value of SEO hosting accounts. Think about it. Unless each IP (or IP pair) is associated with a different pair of nameservers, they ain’t really separate and they’re trackable to the same server account regardless of IP! ”

    The best option is to go with several hosting accounts with different companies to ensure the best separation. This is, unfortunately a more expensive option than a single reseller (a reseller is easier to manage).

    Another option, one I use, is to get a VPS or even a dedicated server (very expensive) and buy a bunch of IPs on different C classes that you can use. I set them up as nameserver pairs using private nameservers with two IPs on the same C class eg: &
    resolving to:
    ns1.mydomain.com & ns2.mydomain.com &
    resolving to:
    ns1.myotherdomain.com & ns2.myotherdomain.com

    …repeated for however many IP pairs you can buy and domains you have to use as private nameservers that you set up with your domain registrar.

    That gives you the same separation as hosting with different companies and you get to have full control over your server. You’ll be charged for each IP address (typically around $2 a month) so you have to pay for 2 IPs for each nameserver pair. You then resolve a few domains to each private nameserver, perfect if you are building different groups of satellite sites for different niches.

    You need to know what you are doing with this option. If you don’t there’s a steep learning curve!

    You can also get a wide spread of IPs just by creating satellite sites from web 2.0 properties such as squidoo/hub pages/infobarrel etc and free blogs like blogspot, wordpress, blogetery, blinkweb etc. You can make your network as big as you can handle, but it takes a lot of time and serious effort to do this.

    Hope that cleared that up …at least as clear as mud πŸ™‚

    Vote -1 Vote +1Max Reply:

    @Terry, Good advice, Terry. My seo hosting company gives me the private name servers as part of the deal.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    I was hoping you would reply Terry πŸ˜‰ Frankly it all goes way over my head when stuff gets involved like that. I settle for a reseller and a few hosting accounts with different peeps to get the different nameservers and IP’s and that is as far as I think I will take it.

    That, and Squids, WordPress, blogger (aarg) etc and that is as far as I am going.

    But that was a great reply and please answer any such similar questions too!!! πŸ˜‰

    Vote -1 Vote +1JhayDee Reply:


    Thanks Terry! I got it in the first paragraph already, everything is cleared up now, so its everything until the different class C IP…

    And yeah, I think the VPS is a good option imho, much cheaper than going for different web hosts.. I have 2 vps accounts that I noticed was on a different IP against some other shared hosting that I have on same account..

    …now back to regular lurking… Thanks for the help guys!

    Vote -1 Vote +1JamestheJust Reply:


    Thanks, Terry – that was pretty incredible. Who do you use for a VPS?

    Vote -1 Vote +1Terry Reply:

    @JamestheJust, Hostgator – they’re not the cheapest but I’ve had a reseller with them for years and their support is the best. I sure needed it when I first got the VPS cause even though I have Linux knowledge and experience from way back, there’s a lot of new stuff I didn’t know and their support people really helped me.

    Plus its safety in numbers. There’s so many people hosted with HG that it would be harder to find a network of sites buried in there than on a smaller server/host πŸ˜‰

    Vote -1 Vote +1JamestheJust Reply:


    Astute as usual, thanks!

  42. @Josh,
    What company are you using amazon through? The legislature in my state is going to pass a similar law requiring amazon to collect tax. Thanks.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Blackthorne Reply:

    @Martin, It’s probably skimlinks.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Josh Reply:


    yeah skimlinks.

    Here is my referral link.


  43. Holy hell it took me more than 10 seconds to scroll down

    +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:



    Read it or I will be getting my pointed stick out. I mean it.

  44. Hey, guys, how are your squidoo lenses are doing? Traffis is steady or falling?

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Rising. Apart from the one I nearly got in the top 5 for its category. That has disappeared off the face of the earth. πŸ™

    Vote -1 Vote +1atma Reply:

    @Dave, Thanks, Dave!
    I’m just recovering from the Grand Fall of Hubpages…:)

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    I have to tell you that none of our Hubs are down apart from the ones that never had backlinks. If you backlink them they should come back up no probs.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Max K Reply:

    @Dave, How many backlinks should we send to our fallen hubs?

    +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:

    @Max K,


    Vote -1 Vote +1atma Reply:

    @Dave, Ha-ha-haaaaa:))))))))))))))))))

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:

    @Max K,

    Sos, couldn’t resist.

    As many as it takes Max, he who dares wins, as Del Boy would say. 10 a day for a week should see some nice rises in the serps, I made $75 from a Hub yesterday that was nowhere to be seen for the terms I wanted to rank for until I began linking to it last week.

    Vote -1 Vote +1JanisG Reply:

    Most of my top ranking hubs are on page 2 now. I have not touched them since Farmer Update. It looks like I will experiment with different types of links to try to get them back to page one.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    If you link them it should budge them no problem. As far as I can tell any Hubs that have a good number of links are ranking just fine.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Josh Reply:


    My traffic is still falling.

    I have sent this particular lense 200 BMRs for it’s main keyword and another 125 for other keywords and it won’t budge.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Blackthorne Reply:

    @Josh, Try adding a text capsule.

    Vote -1 Vote +1JamestheJust Reply:


    If you only get links from one source, or notice it’s falling, it’s time to either change your link anchors, link source, or velocity – Google’s either penalizing you or figuring out where to put you and you’ll wind up either:

    A) On top;
    B) At bottom…

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Good advice. If it won’t budge Josh then you need to begin boosting the links you already have. Run them through Backlink Solutions or write a postrunner or 2 for each of the links that show up to that Lens. Plus make sure you vary your anchors and use some straight URL links too.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Josh Reply:


    I think I might just start working on something else entirely. The conversion rate has tanked so I’m not making nearly as much money on it, and google clearly doesn’t have any interest in the page. Putting so much time into the page isn’t helping anyone.

    I’m going to add some new content to the page and then send it 30k profile links. Then I won’t worry about it for a while.

    Also, wouldn’t too many links from BMR not count as from the same source? I thought they had thousands of sites. Even with 500 links I still shouldn’t even have more than 1 link from a site.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    The chances are that all the links are from different sites. The only thing to watch for is that you don’t always pick the same category when you submit. It would look a bit fishy as they often include the category as part of the URL.

    But moving on to something else is a good idea, often you will find stuff bounces back on its own anyway.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Josh Reply:


    I’m pretty sure none of my writers change the category. Hopefully your wrong and they don’t put it in the URL.

    I’ve started promoting buy.com. Their commission is comparable to Amazon(often better) and they accepted my application automatically. Hopefully I see decent conversion rates with them.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    They do use the category and sub category in the URL on ones I have checked so change it up every week if you are getting the work outsourced. Otherwise it looks fishy once you have hundreds of links pointing to a page or a site even.

    Good luck with buy.com, I don’t see why you wouldn’t do well with them.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Josh Reply:


    I just hope they will have the conversions you get with Amazon(especially during christmas).

    Though hopefully by Christmas my state legislators will finally repeal that bill. They have said they are going to do it numerous times. Then again, the courts have already ruled the bill was unconstitutional and Amazon still has us blocked out.

    Vote -1 Vote +1JamestheJust Reply:


    I’d still vary the type of link and not just get:

    150 word, keyworded, content links.

    I’d get a mix – sounds like you’re on your way to changing it up. As much as Dave uses BMR, he still mixes ’em up (the links I mean).

    Hope it goes well with Buy.com – haven’t used them yet.

    I was looking at Amazon – they’re taking a big gamble right now: Amazon vs. the world at the moment, here in the US anyway.

    They’re facing stiff competition from the government, and the Main Street Fair Trade coalition, or whatever they call themselves (see the Wall St. Journal on it?).

    With all that pressure to force Amazon to pay state taxes everywhere, or collect state taxes – since nobody wants to do the work of cutting and balancing their budget (go figure – why not just find someone else to rob?) – politicians and competitors are coming out of the woodwork to force the issue…

    All to say, I’ve seen Amazon pull out of states, firing affiliates, and they’re handy dandy Amazon toolbar makes it even easier to cut out the affiliates…I don’t think they’re dumb, Amazon, I mean – they’ll find a way to make sales…

    But they’re fending for themselves, needing to replace their dependence on affiliates, and I think they’ll A) find ways to sell and just keep more of their own money, or B) tank their own affiliate program in their defense…

    Not sure if that has anything to do with what’s going on with your sales or not, but as an affiliate: you’re always fighting the hand that feeds you.

    Google and Amazon, or whomever…diversifying your income stream is the WTG.

    Or just become a politician…

    Vote -1 Vote +1JamestheJust Reply:


    EDIT: …THEIR handy-dandy Amazon toolbar…

    Not “they’re”…ugh. I hate that.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Josh Reply:


    Those are also my thoughts on Amazon…..

    Do you have suggestions on other types of links? You need to remember that a little more than a month ago I was spamming exclusively….

    Vote -1 Vote +1atma Reply:

    @Josh, It looks like G has its own views on what should rank and what should not. I remember to have two blogspot blogs some time ago with almost the same keyword in subdomain name (second blog just had a generic word added), they were about the same niche but were on different accounts. So, one of them still gathers some long-tail traffic, but the other is nowhere. All other conditions were the same for both (articles were unique and spun). So, I still don’t know why one worked better than the other?

    Vote -1 Vote +1atma Reply:

    @atma, Some clarification: I started the second blogspot blog after a while just because I knew that the keywords were converting (I tried to use Griz’s methods on blogspot blogs at that time). So it was the second one with the generic name added that worked.

  45. Dave,

    Thanks for a really awesome post. Lots to learn and take action.

    On a side note has any of you guys noticed any impact to BMR network after the new g update. It looks like my set of posts from last 10 days are resulting in to NO increase in rankings. ( Yes I am expecting some jumps as I am not on the first page and based on competition)

    Thanks once again.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    You are welcome Dude. BMR still seems to be working for me, but these things are never going to work for all keywords. Sometimes you get real stubborn ones that need more of a push. Try giving the links a couple of links themselves, that should give you the boost you need.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Josh Reply:


    Actually this is the same kind of thing I think I’m getting with my squidoo lense.

    However, I don’t think their network really is much of a content farm.

  46. Nice post mate!

    What do you use for stats on your websites? Google Analytics? Statcounter?

    What is your recommendation?

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    I use Statcounter only. I don’t want all my sites loaded up in anything owned by the big G. For adsense it obviously won’t matter but for anything else I would keep them a little separate. Paranoia and all that πŸ˜‰

    Vote -1 Vote +1Bruno Reply:


    yeah, I have a mix of statcountr and analytics just to compare the two of them.

    Yeah with adsense, the moment you put your code in your site with “pub- …” it doesn’t really matter where you get your stats from since you’re imprinting a big stamp on all your sites with your adsense code …

    And I bet google has a far greater control on sites that have any “pub- ..” stamp on it then sites that have a g. analytics code on them …

    thanks again

    Vote -1 Vote +1Snowboy Reply:

    @Dave, See your Reviewazon experiement – the one where you lost all your rankings… did you have Analytics on those sites back then by any chance?

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Nope, I don’t use it at all. I think it may have been making the change to the content that did for me. Who knows but I ain’t going back there πŸ˜‰

  47. hey dave,

    Do you use the amazon link localizer plugin?

    I get alot of traffic from canada and australia and dont want to miss out on the sales but I also wouldnt want to use a dodgy plugin!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Billy Reply:

    @Max K, Amazon has an Australia site?!

    I just published this plugin, so if you’re struggling to find a plugin let me know, and I might be able to cobble something together.



    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:

    @Max K,

    I did try it but could not get it to work for the life of me. A few people have had success though so it is worth trying to get it to work.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Craig Reply:

    @Max K, Works fine for me, I’ve been using it for a while. People from the UK and Canada seem pretty reluctant to actually buy anything from Amazon, but the plugin sends the traffic to the correct site just fine.

  48. I put in some real work today and created me a buncha new lenses!

    I was thinking that, while it might be a good idea to get my Squids up to 100, it might not be such a good idea to build them to 1000.

    After all… what if Squidoo gets slapped?

    Turn to HubPages? But they *already* got slapped recently!!!

    To make a long story short… I want to find out about Squidoo/HubPage alternatives if there are any.

    Can the hyve mind help a guy out here with some suggestions?

    Vote -1 Vote +1JamestheJust Reply:


    Your own website.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    You beat me to it!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Get your own general site, it really is worth it. Either use an old site you have with a general domain name or see about buying something aged (just don’t ask me how to do it yet).

    Vote -1 Vote +1Blackthorne Reply:

    @Dave, My very own website that has a range of product info and review pages hm?

    That means I’m not riding anybody’s existing authority, and yet I’m trying to rank for all sorts of products.

    You don’t see this sort of advice a lot in the MMO world. But it’s crazy enough that it just might work!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    It ain’t crazy, I have been doing it for ages. You calling me a mental? General sites work great once you build up some authority. You can have adsense where you want on some posts and go for products on others.

    Heck, you can even add or take off adsense depending on the time of year and if people are buying or not. A lot more freedom and no revenue share or adds getting in the way where you don’t want them.

    It is worth having at least one such site to test things or build out a mini niche in its own right without buying a new domain.

    All the cool kids do it, well, I do anyway, and I am Gangsta Mo Fo 8) See?

    Vote -1 Vote +1Blackthorne Reply:

    @Dave, Dear lord… so we’re not even building niche sites anymore?

    In this post, you say to go broad.

    Going broad *still* implies sticking to a niche.

    But okay man… I believe you. I’d like a general product site myself. I’m gonna build one!

  49. Hi Dave

    thank you for such an informative post, the information contained in it is pure gold.

    You mention when you see a keyword getting searches in your stats to write a post for it and then link that post to the existing page that showed up for your keyword in order to get a double listing. I just want to be sure I am understanding how to do this.

    1. You write a new post for the keyword that showed up and use that keyword as anchor text in it, which links back to the page that showed up in your stats for the keyword.

    2. On the existing page that showed the keyword in your stats, you would then edit it and make the keyword in it an anchor link, which you would then link back to the new post you created for the keyword.

    3. You would use the exact same anchor text in both the existing page and the new post.

    4. You would backlink both these pages using the same anchor text to get them to rank for that term, which should then give you a double listing.

    Am I on the right track?


    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    You got it, um, nothing more to say really Linda, that is the exact way to do it. It works a treat.

    Go get em 8)

    Vote -1 Vote +1Linda Reply:

    @Dave, Thanks Dave

  50. From my experience having one niche site that makes $10,000 a year cannot be possible! What am I doing wrong?

    How big are your niches? Are we talking LCD TVs as a niche or even bigger like electronics?

    How do you deal with seasonality?

    Good post though.

    Vote -1 Vote +1xxecxx Reply:

    @J, i have yet to make $10,000 a year from one niche, but i will not say its impossible even for a slow guy like me…just keep building and you can own the LCD TV niche one day, then you can buy a few tropical islands

    Vote -1 Vote +1Josh Reply:


    I haven’t made 10k a year from a niche, but I have made $1.7k in a month. It’s a lot easier than you think if you find the right item. That came from only 1317 clicks.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Dude, I can tell you now that it is more than possible to make that from a niche site in a month. Heck, at Christmas you could be up in the clouds with what you earn. I have higher hopes every year for Christmas which is when I do really well at Amazon and ten K in a month would be a let down then.

    The niche could be anything, you just need to rank for literally hundreds of terms. It doesn’t have to be for expensive stuff, just stuff that peeps actually buy, it all adds up.

    For seasonality I go with the flow. I work on sites at the time of the year that people buy and then just do a little maintenance work the rest of the year.

    Vote -1 Vote +1J Reply:

    @Dave, Thanks for taking the time to reply to my comment.

    I’d love to know what I am doing wrong or is it just a case of doing more and more of the same? How many pages does your typical site have that brings in a decent amount?


    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    It honestly is just a matter of finding niches that convert quite well and then scale. My sites usually have roughly 50 plus posts. But you just do as many as you need to do to cover your main terms.

    Then you backlink for every longtail that shows up in your stats and then new ones turn up because of the backlinks, and you backlink them and then…………..

    Vote -1 Vote +1J Reply:

    @Dave, Thanks Dave. I move on way too quick with my sites and never really dominate them. I just get to number in Google for main keyword (if I can) and then move on.

    I think I will try and scale them out a bit from now on though.

    I’d be over the moon if a few of my sites were making Β£1000 per month (I’m from the UK).

    Can I do it?

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Of course you can, if they earn already then it is just scale. Rank number 1 for every longtail and associated term you can think of.

  51. Final question, I promise!

    Do you backlink your category pages at all?

    So the link juice can spread through all pages listed on that page? Or just the individual posts?

    +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    I have done a very little bit of internal linking that way, but only for a user friendly navigation on very specific niches. I normally send links only to individual posts as that is where I get the best conversions.

    It is all down to time I guess, and I spend mine ranking each post I write.

    But feel free to ask any questions Maxine, there has to be somewhere online where we can do it and get a response πŸ˜‰

  52. I’ve set a goal for myself and I’m announcing it here publicly to ensure I’ll make it.

    I’m going to expand my Squidoo collection to 100 before mid April and all lenses will be banklinked (by my writer). I have 35 now, so that means I’m producing 65 more.

    All lenses will deal with > $300 products to ensure a decent commission.

    The goal of this is:
    – to cast my net and learn more about what markets there are
    – to increase my chances of finding a winner through volume
    – to own a bunch of web property that is going to have some age by the end of the year

    It’s hard to get started on this because my existing lenses hardly get any traffic despite having dozens of backlinks each. But I’m going to do it anyway.

    Sometimes I find un-backlinked (but older) Squidoos ranking higher than my newer backlinked ones.

    I am seeing a lucrative Squidoo sink down the SERPs. I’ve been backlinking it heavily. I notice that heavy backlinking does not work, so I’d rather spread my efforts a little thinner. Hence the high volume Lens plan.

    Ask me how I’ve done on April 15th.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Carrie Reply:


    I’ve seen the same stuff with squids – stuff ranking better with no links. I have had a lens on page 1 only to lose it by backlinking. I still got long-tail traffic but never could get back to page 1. I’ve also have been able to move some lenses with backlinks.

    Ranking a squid is a bit of a mystery. It seems to be a bit unpredictable.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Billy Reply:

    @Blackthorne, you should use Super Amazon Banners ; )

    Dave – I’ll stop spamming with my links now, promise.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Blackthorne Reply:

    @Billy, Will they help me get traffic to 25 lenses that have hundreds of backlinks but don’t get any traffic?

    Vote -1 Vote +1Josh Reply:


    I was going to do something similar, but ranking squidoo makes no sense to me anymore. I’ll probably get up to 25 lenses(100 backlinks each) or something, but i won’t go all out.

    I think I want to create 5 general sites and add 1 post and 10 BMRs everyday to each site.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Blackthorne Reply:

    @Josh, You need volume to get anything done in this game.

    When one lens doesn’t pull in traffic, another one is.

  53. Hi Dave, this is my first visit here.
    Firstly, I’d just like to say a big thankyou for this post. I came across your blog just yesterday and I’ve learned more from this than from the last two IM products I bought!!

    It’s refreshing to find someone in this niche who isn’t full of BS.

    I think I’ve finally got it and your post confirmed a lot of what I have been thinking lately about affiliate marketing.

    I also read your other post “What it takes to Rank” as I am ready to start some serious backlinking and wondered if you could answer a question that I can’t seem to find a straight answer for. If I was using a service such as Unique Article Wizard or similar service, and sending the same article to many article sites, will Google ignore and not index most of the articles because exactly the same article appears in many places.

    Also I have read conflicting opinions about having the same article on my website and in article directories, I’m thinking this may be a no no.

    I will be subscribing to Build My Rank and possibly Postrunner, obviously via your link. It’s the least I can do πŸ™‚

    Thanks again for providing such a great resource.



    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Always nice to have new faces around Vince, welcome to the site. The reality is that duplicate content can still rank, whatever anyone says. But article marketing in itself is not giving as good results as it once did and in my opinion is not worth spending much time on.

    I would do it for a mix of links but not solely to try to rank. I would NEVER put content on your own site that you put on article directories, you may be the one classed as a content farm instead of the directory.

    I can tell you now that a run of 10 or 20 BMR’s will get you better results than submitting an article to over 500 article directories, even if you spin it really well first. I have tried it and this is just the way it is now.

    Hope that helps and welcome to the site Vince.



    I be rich innit.

    Anyone want to buy it?

    Vote -1 Vote +1Peewee Reply:

    @Dave, Ha Ha Ha I don’t care who you are, that’s damn funny, Dave. Sick freak. If I bought this site, Readership would drop faster than rats jumping off a burning ship.
    You are rich, can you spare a pizza and a bit of Cava?

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Buy your bloody own πŸ˜‰

    Vote -1 Vote +1Josh Reply:


    How did they even come up with that number? That’s fucking insane.

    Even if you do make $78 a day, sites that make 2 or 3 times that much sell for a fraction of that when they are actually put on the market….

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    It’s just random nonsense. I don’t make that a day here, about half of it. And the traffic is certainly way off, by that I mean it is lower.

    Poor me!

    What would you pay for a site though? If a site makes a grand a month I would pay about 12K for it.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Isobel Reply:

    @Dave, I think it depends on how and why the site is making that grand a month. Theoretically, it’s worth anything from 6 months’ to 1 year’s earnings – but if those earnings are dependent on the personality of the owner, those earnings are much less likely to continue under a different owner.

    PluginID is one site that was sold successfully, but I think Glenn managed that because he already had someone else writing there regularly, who continued after the site was sold. The new owner rarely posts, I believe.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    I was just kidding, it would like be selling my Dogs. Um, hang on a minute…….

    Anyone want to buy a Dog for fifty K?

    I know what you mean though Isobel, a site dependent on a personality is never going to continue to give such good returns with a new owner. My earnings here come from some commissions and from all you lovely guys and gals giving me little tips when I do a big Uber post. I am still amazed at that and it means more than getting recurring commissions for products etc as it is personal.

    Oh, plus I wouldn’t have a clue how to sell a site!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Josh Reply:


    I’ve always heard that a site is worth anywhere from 8 to 16 month’s revenue(even 24 months revenue if it pulls in more than half a million a year). However, on flippa they seem to sell at something like 4-8 months revenue.

    Also, just out of curiosity, how much traffic do you actually get? You always make jokes about having 7 readers so I have to wonder hahaha

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Not much at all really, this is a very small site in a very big pond. Let’s just say I won’t be a player for about 100 years. But what this site proves is that you don’t need a lot of traffic to make some money if the passion actually shows through and you give a personal recommendation for a product or two that you actually believe in.

    No that that was really the intention but an extra grand a month means that I can start buying lots of cool Japanese horror movies again after a few years hiatus without feeling guilty.

  55. Hi Dave,

    thanx so much for this article, so much information! I was getting a little impatient, you had us without new articles for a while, but it was definitely worth the wait πŸ™‚

    Just a question on the reseller hosting: I read somewhere that now Google even uses WHOIS data to detect sites that are from the same owner, so it ain’t enough to put the sites on different c-class IPs, you need to make sure that the whois registrant of the sites is different. Any thoughts/experiences about this?


    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    I just do private whois and leave it at that. To be honest unless you are going to be building a huge network with hundreds of sites then that is enough to think about. Keep it as simple as possible as far as I am concerned.

  56. Ummm….I have kinda basic question, to double-check with you pls :p

    Does G00gle ignore symbols fragmenting your longtail KVs?

    1. When used in post: “product: where to purchase” is equivalent to “product where to purchase”?
    2. More importantly, same question when the longtail is used as anchor text in a link

    There are some longtails that sound strange and you can go around this via using different symbols to break them….but does this mess-up the KV? :O

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Ah ha, only one answer to that one Dude, build some links and come back and let US know. πŸ˜‰

    Seriously I don’t think they make a difference. A case in point being I rank bottom of page 1 for a product that has a – in it. My backlinks have been mostly including the – but I rank the exact same place if I search without it.

    The engines are smart enough to figure that out but if you begin linking for terms that have no natural symbols it may be a different matter. I have never done it so really don’t know.

    Let us know, but I don’t think it will effect much if you use them. Maybe someone else has done this?

    Vote -1 Vote +1Craig Reply:

    @Carlo, When you search Google ignores symbols (at least all the symbols I just tried) and returns an identical page of results no matter. So I’d imagine that they wouldn’t make a difference in titles and anchors either, but I haven’t tested that.

  57. Hehe, OK – I made a Squid targeted on such a longtail.

    Haven’t sent links till know, as I tried the 150 words length and it ranked nowhere in top 1000, although the KV is low competition (WTF?!!)
    Dunno if it’s about the length, but I will find time in Apr to add more content and send some BMRs to it and see what I get.

    Will let ya know πŸ˜‰

  58. Does anyone spin anymore? I know the mass submitter has lost the effect, but I’m thinking if you do a decent enough job you can paste them all over Squidoo, Infobarrel, Sinpsly, Dave’s Article site, etc.

    Also curious how much mileage you can get from a spin. I did the lazy way where you just rewrite sentences (and not synonyms…much easier and less spun-looking) and it’s 100% spun. Wondering how far to stretch it: 10, 20, 50, 100 (not really)?

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    I usually do a 50% spin by going through as many words as I can but to be honest I haven’t spun in ages, I hate it. But I am going to abuse backlinks solutions next week, I keep putting it off but if I am paying for it I should use it.

  59. Dave,

    do you use Wordtracker free tool or the paid version?


    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    The free one, I just log in to use it but that’s it.

  60. Help!

    I’m trying the facebook thingy but I’m having a problem. I got as far as apps. When I clicked on apps, I couldn’t find Static FBML.

    Where can I find it?


    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    As I said in the update that part of it is obsolete now. They changed it to iFrames like the day ofter I wrote about FBML, typical. Go to the post I linked to, there is more info on iFrames there, or do a search on Facebook apps.

    Talk about confusing eh?

  61. Hi Dave, very newbie questions I have. When I write a post for a product and add it to my website, its time to build links. In regards to building links, do I just write as many 300 word articles as I can? And where do I post all those articles? Say I write 50 link building articles per post, where do I submit all of those articles? Also, when I leave a blog comment in hopes for a link, do I just write a comment and add an anchor text in my comment that points to my blog? Do I also include my website address in the comment? Im starting from ground zero so thanks for your patience!


    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    I don’t do blog commenting for links. But if you want to then you need to look for sites that use commentluv and keywordluv, do a search for them. There are loads of lists of niche specific sites that use it, they give a dofollow backlink.

    For getting post backlinks, which is better, you are going to either join the keyword academy and use postrunner, or something like build my rank. Or submit to article directories, which is not so effective these days. Try the keyword academy first, I think they are now free for the first month. Link is on my tools to succeed page.

    Also, don’t forget to use sites like Infobarrel, Squidoo and Hubpages for links, you may as well always get links from sites that give you a revenue share as well.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Sam Reply:


    I took a look at build my rank an am a little confused. So after I write a post for my site, do I need to write a post very similar to my post and submit it to BMR for them to use? Also, when getting a new site up, how many links do you suggest I build for each new post starting out? I plan on writing a new post everyday.

    Thanks again!

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Basically whatever keyword term you want to rank for you need to send backlinks for that term. So the content you write for backlinks simply needs to be about the term you want to rank for with content that is relevant. It doesn’t have to be similar to your original post, just about the keywords.

    For the first few months I would just do a few links for each post. Aged content and aged sites will rank easier so concentrate on getting content up first on a new site and then backlink seriously after a few months, increasing it as much as you can.

  62. Thought I would check in (and have a breather) I have completed 15 of a planned 18 articles I need to complete a set of 3 random linkwheels/pyrimids and direct linking articles to money site. I will finish the last 3 articles today, all are over 500 words. I have created one part of the linkwheels/pyrimids, accounts created manually all with different emails (although I did create the emails with magic submitter to save time). I will finish the other two parts of the linkwheels/pyrimids account creation and the 3 article linking back to my website today too.

    DAVE Please could you tell me if I am on the right track. This is what I am planning.

    As soon as all the articles and web 2.0 sites have been completed and approved I will order a xrummer profile blast to each of the sites.

    Whilst I am waiting for ezines etc to approve use scrapebox (brought this yesterday don’t know how it works but will learn) to find high page rank sites to post comments on, manual not spam. Also find .gov and .edu to comment on using above footprints.

    Use a blog distribution network to create blog posts to my articles and web 2.0 sites and money site.

    Try some Press releases via magic submitter to all sites using a unique article that is spun for each site.

    I know its a long comment but it might help someone else as well. Please let me know if you think some of it is a waste of time and money. I would also appreciate if you have any suggestions. Thanks Mark.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Wow, sounds like you have a plan there Dude. I don’t use xrumer or scrapebox, I have looked at them but basically any automated stuff like that I don’t really like. But that is just a personal thing.

    The problem with profile blasts like that is that a lot will get taken down, and disappearing links is not good. I don’t think that comments for backlinks give much of anything, too weak.

    I would rather write some build my rank articles, they will give more bang for the buck so to speak and only take a few minutes.

    But, the main thing is you are working, that is going to pay off. Just be careful with auto stuff and don’t rely on comments for backlinks, try to build up some real links if possible.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Wishal Reply:

    @Mark, If you’re looking for profile backlinks check out Phillipines Backlinks. I’d say they still work for squids even though HP frowns on them. A mix of those and BMRs should be good. Wonder what Dave has to say about that…

    Comments are too much of a pain IMHO especially since the time that it is going to take you to find a blog that is related to your niche, is dofollow, approves your comment and pray on the chance that it lets you use any anchor text you want could be used to put up say 10 BMRs. Let us not forget PostRunner here, poor things not been getting any love from anyone since BMR came onto the scene.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    I agree, I use backlinks philippines all the time, (cough) aff link on my tools to succeed page πŸ˜‰ They work well for squids and are the best profile links you will get.

    Comments simply don’t work in my experience for boosting rankings. Wifey paid for 100 comment links on high pr homepages, nada. Total waste of money.

    Good tips Wishal.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Mark Reply:

    Thanks for the reply’s guy’s.
    I ordered a small batch of profile link from Back links Phillipines last week directly to my money site and I think that it got the site sandboxed. I was sitting at position 20 in google about the same on yahoo and 5th on bing the next day my site went to position 90 in google, but this was not my main domain? Anyway when I checked the main domain stayed the same in the other search engines. I will carry on building ranks anyway but it is a bit annoying.

    The reason I thought about the xrummer blast and blog comments was to give a different variety for the sources of links but if you think I don’t need these I will give them a miss.

    Right based on your reply to my comment, I will continue to create more 150 word unique articles for Build my Rank. I have typed near 20000 words on the same topic I thought I that would be it for a while, oh well sounds like I had better get use to it until I can afford to outsource. I will keep doing this until I get to the top 3.

    Do you recommend using build my rank for the web 2.0 feeder site as well?

    Thanks for taking the time to reply it helps me to focus my efforts and believe that I am not wasting my time.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Wishal Reply:

    @Mark, When topics bore you, and you’re running out of ideas, type in “~yourkeyword”. Might give you related niches that you aren’t bored of yet. Or you could regurgitate recent news/EZA from your niche.

    Dave also recommends switching around categories from time to time. Solid advice.

    Was the $ite a brand new one? What kind of links did it have earlier on? Blanket advice is that it will come back. If it had links earlier on, you want to build a couple of links a week with non-specific anchors.

    You seem to be leaning towards link wheels. Check these guys out:

    I’m going to give them a shot with a set of relatively new sites I plan to get out of the door next month. They’re supporting EMDs, so I’m not being too careful. The only thing that I would be wary of is pointing the 1500+ article directory submissions directly to my site. Otherwise, seems like a cogent plan.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    I saw that a while ago and nearly took them up on it. As recommended by Eli himself, praise for them indeed. But this game can get complicated, my linkwheels consist of support sites that get links and that is it. Interlink some to boos them, slowly add in links to the main money site and backlink the buggery out of them once they get some age.

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Could be coincidence, the algo update has hit with a vengeance last and this week. You should see the state of Hubpages, dismal.

    Also, don’t be afraid to simply take a month of from linking to a site. Often you can find that links you built months ago take some time to really catch up.

    I know so much advice is contradictory and I am as guilty of the next, if not more so, of constant linking, but I have also lost count of the times that sites gain hundreds of visitors when no links have been made for months. They simply finally get placed where the linking work should have placed them.

    Long term it cuts down on the work, but it is hard to think more than a few months in the future, I know. This is why I am on a new site rampage for the next month. Trying to just stop myself from hammering my sites.

  63. I’ve copied and pasted this asap before you start charging for it you thieving @$$€€§§!

    Writing really useful content and then trying to charge for it! Who ever heard of such a thing???

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:

    @Jamie Sandford,

    Hey man, the Amazon post was free for almost a year. Now, I need the cash. Ten bucks a day which is what it averages is good money over a year. It will pay for at least part of my alcohol addiction.

    But all else is free, no worries about that.

    Gotta go………….

    Cava time!

    Well, bottle number 2 Cava time anyway πŸ˜‰

    Vote -1 Vote +1Jamie Sandford Reply:


    Drink away. And that Amazon post is worth much more than $10!!!

  64. the satellite sites you build, do they need to be on different hosting than your main site, different class c ip addresses, otherwise G will know what your trying to do

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:


    Personally although I do it I think it is somewhat overrated. But a couple of sites on the same hosting is not going to hurt. There are thousands of other sites on the same ip after all.

  65. So to be clear… your main site is about Sony products and you build a satelite site about the Sony handheld calculator, but you don’t buy the url http://www.sonyhandheldcalculator but rather wwwhandheldcalculatorshop even though the former will be much easier to rank?

    Vote -1 Vote +1Dave Reply:

    @Jamie Sandford,

    That is a personal thing. But long term it could taken off you because you use the sony name. It is about weighing up the short term v long term earnings potential and whether you think that your copyright infringement could have consequences.

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